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re: The SPLC put a target on Charlie Kirk in May 2025 By September he was gone

Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:04 pm to
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Whats your explanation as to why democrats in government were funding democrats running an NGO that were in turn funding the KKK and other white supremacist groups?


You're getting a bit loose with the facts without any evidence to support that sort of thing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:04 pm to
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Did you contribute money for her to buy a bike a homeless dude she shagged stole?

No.

And cubbies doesn't particularly like me, FWIW.

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Are you related to Sir Winston or BoarEd

No

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and are housemates

Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:09 pm to
The SPLC is the old guard of establishment media and put targets on the backs of conservatives for a long time. Obviously there was a direct line between the FRC attack and SPLC doing just that.

I highly doubt Charlie's murderer had any knowledge that SPLC had said anything specific about Kirk. But, SPLC is arguably, historically, the #1institution for normalizing demonization of right wing groups as adjacent to Nazis or some other title that would make harm to them justifiable (in the eyes of leftists).

Happy to put some of the blame on them, just as I would MSM or the DNC. They know how the left is wired, and they did it anyway (and they're still doing it).
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:10 pm to
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If I ever said anything like that, it would be very easy to find with the updated search feature


You dance around it with every Jootard post. You should grow a spine and say it.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:16 pm to
You should be able to link at least one post where it’s implied.

You think the college debate guy getting shot by a tranny has anything to do with my dislike of our greatest ally? That’s hilarious
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:27 pm to
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They're trying to squeeze every drop of dishonesty they can from this story.

Mass formation psychosis on full display. It's so weird and cringe.

I'm done trying to correct them. I am just seeing what levels of debasement they can discover

Honest question - do you lay any blame for the 1/6 riot at the capitol at Trump's feet?

Nobody is arguing the SPLC is responsible for Kirk's murder. The suggestion is the SPLC was central to creating an inaccurate, corrosive and for some wackos at the fringes - violent environment by listing TPUSA/Kirk as racist/haters, etc. Don't forget that the media, Dem politicians and other liberal leaders used the SPLC as some sort of neutral umpire on things racist, homophobic, transphobic.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:38 pm to
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Honest question - do you lay any blame for the 1/6 riot at the capitol at Trump's feet?

Blame? No.

I think he'd have been better off marginalizing the protests on 1/5 and prior, but that's just in terms of optics/self-inflicting political wounds.

I feel the same about Charlottesville.

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The suggestion is the SPLC was central to creating an inaccurate, corrosive and for some wackos at the fringes - violent environment by listing TPUSA/Kirk as racist/haters, etc.

Do we have any evidence the Gen Zer relied upon this? If not, why bring up CK's assassination? There wouldn't be a factual overlap and we go back to my words you quoted.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:40 pm to
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You're getting a bit loose with the facts without any evidence to support that sort of thing.

All of those things are public record but that’s never stopped you from failing to acknowledge data points when they’re inconvenient to whatever contrarian position you decided to defend on a given day.

I’d probably do the same if I were continually trying to defend bad conclusions.
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 12:43 pm
Posted by David_DJS
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:44 pm to
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Do we have any evidence the Gen Zer relied upon this? If not, why bring up CK's assassination? There wouldn't be a factual overlap and we go back to my words you quoted.

Well, without the public perception effectively fueled by the SPLC and those that refer to it as the media does (just one example), why would the Gen Z'er give a shite one way or the other about Charlie Kirk? Did he have any personal interaction with Kirk?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:46 pm to
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All of those things are public record

Are they? I hope you're not referencing the recent indictment, b/c it does not allege what you wrote.

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but that’s never stopped you from failing to acknowledge data points when they’re inconvenient

Trump engaged in one of the largest acts of "globalism" by starting war with Iran.

Are you going to acknowledge that data point or shy away from it because it's inconvenient?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:47 pm to
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Well, without the public perception effectively fueled by the SPLC and those that refer to it as the media does (just one example), why would the Gen Z'er give a shite one way or the other about Charlie Kirk?


You're giving WAY too much influence to the SPLC, especially for the yutes (why I specifically referenced his age)

Again, proving my quoted language correct
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:49 pm to
I like that you’re self-aware enough to keep it all just below the surface.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:52 pm to
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You're giving WAY too much influence to the SPLC, especially for the yutes


Who should we be looking at?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:54 pm to
I'd imagine left wing and alternative lifestyle social media echo chambers would be exponentially more impactful for people like CK's assassin.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:55 pm to
I never liked Charlie Kirk bc he was explicitly pro Israel . The idea they killed him is absurd.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:55 pm to
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left wing and alternative lifestyle social media echo chambers


You think the SLPC is disconnected from those?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:56 pm to
Fringe internet groups

If Tyler Robinson fit in the no kings protestor demo, maybe SPLC would have some relevance to his ideology.motivation
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:57 pm to
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You're giving WAY too much influence to the SPLC, especially for the yutes (why I specifically referenced his age)

How did the yutes in large numbers arrive at "Charlie Kirk is a racist piece of shite that wants trannies killed"?

There's a whole wacko ecosphere on the Left that brands political opponents as extremists, haters and dangerous - and the SPLC is at the center of it. You don't have to subscribe to the SPLC's newsletter to be subject to the bullshite it cranks out. There's a reason the SPLC is the largest politically-driven NGO - I think it and the ACLU are about the same size.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 1:00 pm to
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Fringe internet groups


Give me an example.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 1:03 pm to
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You think the SLPC is disconnected from those?


I think at most they're a rhetorical reference point like Snopes, but, that raises the question why you'd need that sort of validation-reference in an echo chamber.

Do we really think the SPLC was even ahead of the curve on CK for young people who hated him? Like that's when the information was deposited into the echo chambers? C'mon. CK was hated long before May 2025 by people like his assassin. The SPLC was late to the game, so to speak.
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