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The Southern US dilemma with Abortion
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:00 am
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:00 am
You all have made very clear how you feel about abortion. And I believe that if Roe v Wade is sent back to the states, most Southern states will ban ot heavily restrict it.
I'm black myself, so I understand how facts can be interpreted in ways deemed racist. But I'm trying to be a realist and well.
Banning abortion will disproportionately effect Blacks. This itself would not be so bad except that
1. Most will be low income
2. Single motherhood under current conditions is very high.
All these factors combined will be devastating to these states in a few decades.
I honestly don't know what PRACTICAL solution we could implement outside of workfare. That probably wont ne enough.
If you disagree. Please discuss it.
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:02 am to volod
I agree. Keep killing babies because it's convenient. Why stop there? Let's add adults to the mix too, right? Convenience is paramount.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:02 am to volod
Rubbers are free. Use them.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:03 am to volod
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most Southern states will ban ot heavily restrict it.
I disagree; abortion ain't going anywhere and I hate abortions.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:05 am to volod
birth control no longer an option or is abortion considered birth control in some circles?
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:08 am to volod
At the time of Roe v Wade, the South had some of the most lax abortion laws in the country.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:09 am to Midget Death Squad
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Keep killing babies because it's convenient. Why stop there?
I agree that it is wrong and that it should be stopped safe for peculiar circumstances. My question pertains to once it is gone and you're idealism doesn't work out, are we prepared to deal with higher population and welfare taxes.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:10 am to volod
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I honestly don't know what PRACTICAL solution we could implement outside of workfare.
Um... they could try... oh, I don't know, taking steps to not get pregnant in the first place?
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:21 am to volod
Abortion should not be a solution for another problem. We cannot keep killing people just because those people need care going forward. Every human has rights.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:22 am to SSpaniel
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Um... they could try... oh, I don't know, taking steps to not get pregnant in the first place
Again. Wishful thinking.
This is like saying the drug problem in the US would disappear if people stopped doing hard drug. Pragmatically its correct. But realistically, decades of government oversight at state and federal level haven't stopped it.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:26 am to volod
“These factors” (wink wink) are already devastating to these states
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:30 am to volod
I've got a crazy idea.
Why don't we stop teaching kids that they are just animals who have the right to act as they please and have others pay the consequences?
Why don't we stop teaching kids that they are just animals who have the right to act as they please and have others pay the consequences?
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:34 am to volod
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welfare
If this shite wasn't so poorly managed I think there'd be a lot fewer women spreading their legs for some guy that has little to no intention of heading up a family.
Somehow welfare and other government aid programs have become a "safety net" that downplay the consequences of poor decisions.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:35 am to volod
Interesting question. I once worked with a guy who HATED blacks. He hated everything about the black race but he hated abortion more. One time I mentioned to him that blacks were more likely to have an abortion and his response was "that's what animals do, kill their children".
He was a good christian man.......
He was a good christian man.......
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:35 am to volod
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honestly don't know what PRACTICAL solution we could implement outside of workfare.
Easy. Incentivized sterilization.
Hey, trailer park Tammy. You live in the trailer park. Dropped out of high school. And are 20 years old. Here’s 15 grand. Get sterilized.
Now Tammy won’t make the most expensive mistake of her young life and get knocked up. She can have all the sex she wants. AND she just got a cool 15k so she can afford to get her GED and go to community college. Or she can buy a car. Or move into a new apt in a new area.
Fast forward a few years and Tammy has her life in order. She got married, got educated, and has a job. Now she wants a kid. So she goes and has pick of the litter from hundreds of thousands of children just waiting to be brought into a new and loving home.
Win for tax payers bc it helps end generational welfare. Win for those who get sterilized bc it ensures they don’t make a massive mistake by having an accident they can’t afford AND gives them a massive amount of money to better their lives. Win for the adopted kid bc he now has a loving home and parents instead of being stuck in a group home.
You’re welcome.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:38 am to volod
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I agree that it is wrong and that it should be stopped safe for peculiar circumstances. My question pertains to once it is gone and you're idealism doesn't work out, are we prepared to deal with higher population and welfare taxes.
Is personal responsibility now called idealism?
This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 9:39 am
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:40 am to timdonaghyswhistle
It’s a classic three win situation. No one loses.
But muh “eugenics”
But muh “eugenics”
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:42 am to beerJeep
Well actually somebody would lose, which is why it will never happen (hint: same losers with border control).
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:44 am to volod
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I honestly don't know what PRACTICAL solution we could implement outside of workfare. That probably wont ne enough.
If you disagree. Please discuss it.
So if AA's are exposed to racism, they fight it to erradicate it. Good thing. Good for society, good for everyone.
AA population is kept under control by legalized abortion, yet that's a good thing? Good for everyone?
AA population cannot adjust to restricted access to abortion or outright state ban. Somehow that is bad, because people can't control themselves.
I don't understand the mindset around this. If you know, that abortion is illegal, or heavily restricted enough that would prevent you from getting one, why would you be so irresponsible as to risk getting pregnant unless you are financially able to take care of the child?
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