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re: The republican party should embrace gay marriage.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:56 am to Norbert
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:56 am to Norbert
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The vast majority of conservative-minded individuals in their 40s or below care very little about gay marriage as an issue.
I care about the way it was shoved down the country's throat. A lot of you don't care about SCOTUS creating laws because you happen to agree with the laws being created.
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:58 am to Dex Morgan
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Since when did marriage = procreation?
Marriage was a relationship set aside as a vehicle for pro-creation almost as far back as history records it. That isn't to say every marriage results in progeny but it always was the vehicle for such.
Other relationships (for example butt humping) were called something else until very recently.
The original Latin - matrimonium combined two concepts Mater meaning mother and the suffix "monium" meaning action, state, or condition.
I mean, Latin traces its roots back to the 10th century BC, but by all means, let's change the meaning of language to fit whatever political whim we face.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:59 am to Chaka
Nope, I will not abandon my morals to appease anyone.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:03 pm to jnethe1
It's not your morals.
That's the issue. It has no affect on your morality.
That's the issue. It has no affect on your morality.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:04 pm to Flats
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Why just two?
Good question, I couldn't care less if some mormon dude wants 12 wives. Has no bearing on me.
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And why adults?
A free and just society protects children from others and is already been done so at a state level with age of consent laws.
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That's just your social norms and morals; not everybody shares them.
Bingo! Only if the boomer evangelicals can get this. It's not all black and white.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It's not your morals.
That's the issue. It has no affect on your morality.
so whose morals do we base laws on? i'm not arguing for or against gay marriage, but it's disingenuous to act like we dont base all of our laws on SOMEONE'S morality, but that we cant on others.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:07 pm to Chaka
The definition of marriage was changed to accommodate sodomites, which has been and is a slippery slope to further change the definition of marriage into something even more grotesque.
Once we allowed the definition of marriage to change, we lost our standing to define it at all. Recognized "Civil Unions" should have been the end of it, but Marxists never stop. All they understand is destruction.
Once we allowed the definition of marriage to change, we lost our standing to define it at all. Recognized "Civil Unions" should have been the end of it, but Marxists never stop. All they understand is destruction.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:08 pm to Sam Quint
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whose morals do we base laws on?
For two people agreeing to a contract? Why does your morals even matter if you're not involved. That's exactly how the left enforces laws on YOU.
We need fewer laws, not more.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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For two people agreeing to a contract? Why does your morals even matter if you're not involved.
well now you're assuming that everyone views marriage as a simple contract, which, again may be what YOU believe, but isnt what everyone believes.
when every word loses meaning and every bit of morality becomes subjective, a society cant function. most people dont really care specifically about gay marriage, but they do understand the larger implications of magically changing the definitions of words to play politics.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:14 pm to Pechon
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Good question, I couldn't care less if some mormon dude wants 12 wives. Has no bearing on me.
Does it have bearing on the insurance his employer offers? Inheritance laws? Marriage is all intertwined in our legal system, which is one of the reasons it's regulated. Now maybe it shouldn't be intertwined, but it is.
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A free and just society protects children from others and is already been done so at a state level with age of consent laws.
Same sex marriage was already handled at a state level too; SCOTUS says that state laws don't matter when they say they don't matrer. What age is a child? 17? 16?
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:15 pm to Sam Quint
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when every word loses meaning and every bit of morality becomes subjective
So in your mind, hedonistic sexual promiscuity is better than the stabilizing effect of marriage?
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:15 pm to Chaka
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The republican party should embrace gay marriage.
Should've done this a couple decades ago. Marriage, like any other individual affair, is none of the government's business.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:16 pm to Chaka
You should embrace the Word.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:16 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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is none of the government's business.
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The republican party should embrace gay marriage.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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So in your mind, hedonistic sexual promiscuity is better than the stabilizing effect ofarriage?
not sure how you're getting that from what I said, but no.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:17 pm to Chaka
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You can still be conservative while liking d**k like me.
WTF are you conserving? Family values? Christian values the country was founded on? Good morals?
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:17 pm to udtiger
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Individual states should make this decision.
Like for abortion.
Abortion can't be "taken with you" across state lines like marriage. How do you deal with the Contracts Clause issues?
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:17 pm to themunch
If you hadn't missed the point, I'd have been surprised.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:18 pm to lsu480
quote:sounds like they're trying to conserve marriage, which is waning in society.
are you conserving
So, gays who want to join your team aren't welcome?
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:20 pm to themunch
Gays getting married have absolutely no effect on your morality.
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