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re: The reluctant 2016 non-voter vote that now supports Trump is a huge undiscussed fac factor
Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:24 pm to Olric
Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:24 pm to Olric
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I am the same. I regret so much not voting for him the first time, I'm going to try to do it twice this year
Ditto, Trump had an unbeatable lead in the Louisiana polls in 16' So I thought a I'd vote Constitutional Party. (Dude was a jack arse after later vetting) And party because I was a member of Ted Cruz's campaign committee and the Raphael Cruz/JFK thing went too far.
But I'm gladly voting Trump this time around and I spoken to many more voters that are doing the same thing.
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:27 pm to Govt Tide
Many would consider the large percentage of black voters that showed up for Obama, and didn’t show up to vote for Clinton in 2016, to be the “reluctant 2016 non-voter”.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:28 pm to DallasTiger11
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This flip side of this is there are many TDS-infected voters who thought Hillary was a lock last time and will not be making that mistake again.
That is a possibility but poll after poll has shown that Trump voters have significantly more enthusiasm for voting then Biden supporters. In some polls it's almost 30 points higher for Trump voters. Now, some of that enthusiasm may be tempered by mass mail-in votes but people without enthusiasm are less likely to vote either way. There is also the issue of naked ballots which will probably be a statistically signficant number in pennsylvania and could very well give Trump the win there by voters, whom are uneducated on the mail-in voting process, having their votes invalidated. HHM has repeatedly said to not read anything into mail-in ballots or early voting but 30% and more of Biden supporters in the major battleground states have said they plan to vote by mail. That could be a good way to gauge his enthusiasm this election.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:32 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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The key is in what states?
It makes zero difference if there is a TDS mob 100 Million deep in California or New York
This does concern me some too. I'm hoping there are thousands and thousands of voters like me in all of the swing states because I am concerned that there are also many Democrats who couldn't or wouldn't vote for Hillary that will vote for Biden because of TDS.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:34 pm to coonasswhodat
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Many would consider the large percentage of black voters that showed up for Obama, and didn’t show up to vote for Clinton in 2016, to be the “reluctant 2016 non-voter”.
Please explain what there is about Biden that would attract those black voters that wouldn't pull the lever for HRC in '16.
I'll wait...
Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:42 pm to coonasswhodat
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Many would consider the large percentage of black voters that showed up for Obama, and didn’t show up to vote for Clinton in 2016, to be the “reluctant 2016 non-voter”.
You make a decent point with this but I think voters in my situation and the voters you're referencing will if anything cancel each other out.
The bigger question in my opinion is whether the very real gains that Trump has picked up among black and hispanic voters since 2016 outpaces Trump's supposed weakness since 2016 among suburban women. I think Minnesota will be a relatively early indication of how the election is going for Trump. If he wins Minnesota I can't see Trump not winning at least 2 of the 3 of WI, MI, and PA.
As always, Trump's re-election is over if he loses Florida or Ohio
Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:49 pm to AustinTigr
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But we can take NOTHING for granted.
deaths aside, I can't imagine that anybody that went out and voted for him in 2016 isn't getting out to vote this time. I'm looking forward to getting out to vote this year like it's a vacation I'm looking forward to. I'm also like a vegan or crossfitter in the respect that I'm telling everybody about it. Anybody that I've talked to that favors Trump and isn't planning or registered to vote is getting grilled by me this year. My parents don't even want to answer the phone to me anymore.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:49 pm to Govt Tide
Same
Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:49 pm to RazorBroncs
Kamala. Voting for one of their own race will probably bring quite a few more African Americans into the voting booths. Time will tell.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:58 pm to coonasswhodat
Blacks hate Kamala.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:59 pm to coonasswhodat
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Kamala
Worse record for blacks than Trump. Hope we aren’t insinuating that black folks only vote their skin color.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:22 pm to fjlee90
Why would I say that? It the black vote would have materialized for Clinton like it did for BHO in 2008 and 2012, she would have won. Just stating facts. I think Biden has a pretty good chance of winning. Time will tell.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:33 pm to DallasTiger11
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This flip side of this is there are many TDS-infected voters who thought Hillary was a lock last time and will not be making that mistake again.
I don't know why you got 20 downvotes here. Anyone dismissing the fervent hatred ginned up by the media and the democrats, in lie-after-lie about President Trump.... and the resulting motivation to go to the polls and vote against him... is pretty naive.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:41 pm to LSUnation78
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I voted for Trump.
He has far exceeded even my wildest dreams. Things you thought were impossible made to look easy.
Same here. I voted in 2016 against Hillary and the Dems. This year will be the first in my life (30s) where I am truly happy and excited to vote for a candidate. That is across all elections. Still don't love his character necessarily but as a President he is amazing.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:42 pm to Govt Tide
Jumped a buddy of mines arse yesterday when he said he wasn’t going to vote because Trump has this locked.
Everyone knows that Trump is going to win election night but he needs to win YUGE!!! The media and left politicians have already planted the seed to their supporters that the election will not be decided for weeks after the election. Those bastards are going to do any and everything to steal it.
Everyone knows that Trump is going to win election night but he needs to win YUGE!!! The media and left politicians have already planted the seed to their supporters that the election will not be decided for weeks after the election. Those bastards are going to do any and everything to steal it.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:42 pm to Govt Tide
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I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary in 2016. No way in the world I was voting for Hillary
Same here. Will 100% vote for Trump this election.
I just didn't think he would do what he said he would do. I'm behind him.....I'm just pissed the coup plot hasn't been prosecuted yet.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:46 pm to RazorBroncs
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Please explain what there is about Biden that would attract those black voters that wouldn't pull the lever for HRC in '16.
I'll wait...
Well if they want to remain Black they have been told if they are even considering not voting for Biden, they ain't black.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:47 pm to JPinLondon
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Anyone dismissing the fervent hatred ginned up by the media and the democrats, in lie-after-lie about President Trump.... and the resulting motivation to go to the polls and vote against him
I'm certainly not downplaying the probable dead-heat nature of this election now through election day, and the gravity of the situation. Nothing should be taken for granted. But regarding the quoted material, isn't that precisely what occurred in the run up to November 2016?
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:47 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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The flippity-flip side is my dad has NEVER voted "R" before and is vibrating with excitement to vote for the Orange Man in November.
You writing porn scripts now, BHP?
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:48 pm to Quesadilla Superman
quote:Good!! Y'all NEED to get on everyone you know. This is PART of the reason why Hillary lost... many of her voters were told for months she was 8-12 points ahead and she had a 93% chance of winning.
Jumped a buddy of mines arse yesterday when he said he wasn’t going to vote because Trump has this locked.
quote:Friend, this election is NOT determined yet. Look close at a BUNCH of issues/polls/etc. and I promise you that we have a LOT of work to do to re-elect Trump! I mean, 5 years of negative coverage and a LOT of misplaced white-guilt out there... the swing states last time were OH-SO-CLOSE. He won Michigan + Wisconsin + Pennsylvania by a TOTAL of 80,000 votes (total, not each state).
Everyone knows that Trump is going to win election night
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he needs to win YUGE!!! The media and left politicians have already planted the seed to their supporters that the election will not be decided for weeks after the election.
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