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The real reason Muhammad Ali refused the draft

Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:13 am
Posted by RonLaFlamme
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
1678 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:13 am
The actual article is behind the WSJ paywall, but here is a repost. This was before my time, but this is very different from the commonly accepted narrative. Very interesting.

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The truth, though hard to make out under the thick moss of mythology, is that Ali refused induction not out of principle but from fear of disobeying Elijah Muhammad, who had stipulated that the champ not serve in a “white man’s war.”
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:30 am to
I couldn't care less. I would have avoided the draft as well.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14793 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:33 am to
Quack board
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:36 am to
I wonder if Trumps bone spurs are ok?
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:37 am to
quote:


The truth, though hard to make out under the thick moss of mythology, is that Ali refused induction not out of principle but from fear of disobeying Elijah Muhammad, who had stipulated that the champ not serve in a “white man’s war.”


As soon as Ali became a Black Muslim he was shite in my eyes.
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:38 am to
quote:

As soon as Ali became a Black Muslim he was shite in my eyes.
least surprising post ever?
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77298 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:39 am to
Tells me all I need to know about you...
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:39 am to
Ok.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27433 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:40 am to
quote:

fear of disobeying Elijah Muhammad, who had stipulated that the champ not serve in a “white man’s war.”


Also, Malcolm X had been killed a few years before for breaking with Elijah Muhammed....don't think that did not enter is mind.

Look, trying to draft Ali was a political ploy at the time.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:40 am to
Don't care about people's rationale for avoiding an immoral institution supporting frivolous blood shed.


Good on Ali.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:42 am to
quote:

As soon as Ali became a Black Muslim he was shite in my eyes.


quote:

Least surprising post ever?


I interpret your post to mean you agree with me.

Am I correct?
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 11:43 am
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:43 am to
quote:

 Ali refused induction not out of principle but from fear 

Exactly.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:44 am to
Let's keep vilifying a guy that refused to fight in an unjust and immoral war, while the guy responsible for a lot of the carnage in Vietnam(Henry Kissinger) spent time in the Oval Office today.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:45 am to
I'm more concerned about his lost soul.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:47 am to
quote:

The real reason Muhammad Ali refused the draft
What if everyone refused to participate in war?
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34638 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:48 am to
quote:

I wonder if Trumps bone spurs are ok?


Coming from a Bill Clinton voter, that's
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:49 am to
quote:

while the guy responsible for a lot of the carnage in Vietnam(Henry Kissinger)


You got to explain that one seeing as to how he wasn't in power until '73 and the war was officially over about 22 months later.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:50 am to
quote:


What if everyone refused to participate in war?


Do you mean "Supposed they had a war and nobody came?"

Well, you are in a dream world if you think that will ever happen.

You better start accepting reality, dude.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:50 am to
quote:

What if everyone refused to participate in war?


Take a wild guess.
Posted by RonLaFlamme
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
1678 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:52 am to
quote:

I wonder if Trumps bone spurs are ok?


I have no idea what this means.
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