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re: The "racial impact" on the war on drugs.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:32 am to BIGDAB
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:32 am to BIGDAB
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There is a Meth and heroine epidemic going on in this country, and the majority of those who are strung out are white people.
Sure, but if you listen to Cheech & Chong geniuses on here ... the positive benefits of this epidemic can be seen everywhere.
Look at all of the folks that no longer have job lock because they can't get a job... and even if they cheat the drug screen and do get a job ... they'll frick it up and lose it.
Look at all the young baby momma's that got knocked up by these losers and little kids that are now fricked for life.
It's grand.
And, these geniuses will say that to make things even better ... we need to legalize everything.
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:29 am to navy
quote:
we need to legalize everything
Finally!
You have come to your senses!
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:50 am to TheHiddenFlask
I think the neighborhood has a lot to do with it....and I think that race is not a causation factor as much as education, % of single family households, average AGI, and neighborhood population density.
I think that police are going to have a greater impact in higher crime areas, which are typically lower income neighborhoods where people are less likely to have decent employment, kids are less likely to have adequate adult supervision, and are more likely to do stupid things....making them an easier target for law enforcement. Law enforcement is typically more visible and better equipped in more densely populated urban areas- especially in areas with crime problems.
When I was younger, we were more worried about our parents or a game warden catching us breaking the law than a sheriff's deputy in our sparsely populated rural area. Sheriff's deputies would only come by our area if someone's cattle got lose. They were probably 20+ minutes away on a typical day.....which is in stark contrast to most major cites, where police are always around.
I think that police are going to have a greater impact in higher crime areas, which are typically lower income neighborhoods where people are less likely to have decent employment, kids are less likely to have adequate adult supervision, and are more likely to do stupid things....making them an easier target for law enforcement. Law enforcement is typically more visible and better equipped in more densely populated urban areas- especially in areas with crime problems.
When I was younger, we were more worried about our parents or a game warden catching us breaking the law than a sheriff's deputy in our sparsely populated rural area. Sheriff's deputies would only come by our area if someone's cattle got lose. They were probably 20+ minutes away on a typical day.....which is in stark contrast to most major cites, where police are always around.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 9:07 am
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:09 am to TheHiddenFlask
quote:or stopping white boys to check them out.
vs not patrolling as much in white areas?
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:11 am to navy
quote:unless you think we should criminalize alcohol, your stance is hardly genius material.
And, these geniuses will say that to make things even better ... we need to legalize everything.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:13 am to navy
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And, these geniuses will say that to make things even better ... we need to legalize everything.
Never has made sense to me. Weed, sure. Any one that argues crack cocaine, heroine, and meth being legal is a good thing is completely wrong.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:16 am to WG_Tiger23
quote:why?
Any one that argues crack cocaine, heroine, and meth being legal is a good thing is completely wrong.
Alcohol is far more harmful to our society
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:23 am to Tigah in the ATL
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why?
Alcohol is far more harmful to our society
Alcohol is more widely consumed. Mostly due to it being legal.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:28 am to deltaland
Ohh man.........a whole lot of stupid up in this thread......including the OP. 
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:32 am to WG_Tiger23
quote:your argument then is that legalizing it makes it harmful.
Alcohol is more widely consumed. Mostly due to it being legal.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:35 am to WG_Tiger23
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Any one that argues crack cocaine, heroine, and meth being legal is a good thing is completely wrong.
Just bc they are legal doesn't mean usage will go up.
I bet you know a ton of ppl who don't use drugs. Do they do it because of the criminal label? Would all those people who abstain from the wonders of meth try it if it were legal tomorrow?
Of course not.
The criminal banning of substances only assists your fragile psyche in allowing you to feel benevolent over others with addictions.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:38 am to Tigah in the ATL
No, the substance itself is harmful.
If you druggies already are so butthurt about alcohol being so dangerous, no need to legalize more dangerous substances.
If you druggies already are so butthurt about alcohol being so dangerous, no need to legalize more dangerous substances.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:40 am to CherryGarciaMan
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This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 11:42 am
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:41 am to WG_Tiger23
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If you druggies already are so butthurt about alcohol being so dangerous, no need to legalize more dangerous substances.
The grievance is not the legal status of alcohol, but the double standard. What a lame arse argument.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:47 am to WG_Tiger23
The message you posted stated:
"Sure I do. I know that the criminal label stopped me from smoking a little reefer a time or two"
Why edit that?
"Sure I do. I know that the criminal label stopped me from smoking a little reefer a time or two"
Why edit that?
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:47 am to AUbused
Getting off topic anyway.
Lets talk about the racial impact? Regardless of profiling, black kids don't have to use drugs.
They don't have to listen to rap music and make rap music glorifying the use of drugs, selling of drugs.
Lets talk about the racial impact? Regardless of profiling, black kids don't have to use drugs.
They don't have to listen to rap music and make rap music glorifying the use of drugs, selling of drugs.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:48 am to CherryGarciaMan
quote:
The message you posted stated:
"Sure I do. I know that the criminal label stopped me from smoking a little reefer a time or two"
Why edit that?
Getting way off topic. I know the double standard of alcohol argument and you can't really argue against it. I disagree that the double standard should be credible reason to legalize other substances but whatever.
Back to the racial impact.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:49 am to WG_Tiger23
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WG_Tiger23
Dude.
You are an ignorant, ignorant man.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:51 am to TheHiddenFlask
I do think patrol frequency has something to with it, along with ingrained wealth (you can smoke weed in your house in the suburbs all day long, but if you're in a little tenement you might need to move onto the porch or the balcony or the corner to do the same) , leniency (cops run into some college kids with a bit of weed on them they often confiscate and warn, cops run into the same situation but with a young black male they probably think "dealer" and bust him, etc) and finally the disparities in sentences for the various drugs of choice (meth is the first "white" drug to be treated like say crack-- its not a coincidence that its a drug for poor white people, if stock brokers and sorority girls were smoking meth it'd be a serious but not life altering sentence).
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 11:54 am
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