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The Queer History of Butches
Posted on 4/16/24 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 4/16/24 at 1:57 pm
what the actual F? are these real words?
The Queer History of Butches
The times I’ve felt the most hopeful about my future as a 20-something transmasculine person is when I’ve had the privilege of interacting with older butches. My first distinct encounter with a butch person happened when I was 15 years old at the Ventura County Fair; they were helping their high femme girlfriend get onto the Ferris wheel, looking dapper in their Oakland Raiders jersey and long, tightly-woven braid.
Though the interaction was fleeting and basically parasocial, moments like this always felt like Easter eggs from older, wiser queers — a sign to tell me you can live a masc life. I’m not alone in my admiration; butches have been a backbone of modern queer spaces since before the term was even coined in the early 20th century. From Stormé DeLarverie throwing the first punch at the Stonewall Uprisings to Leslie Feinberg penning groundbreaking novels about queer and trans experience like Stone Butch Blues and Drag King Dreams to Jeanne Córdova helping found the West Coast queer liberation movement, butches have helped shape the modern fight for queer and trans liberation.
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The Queer History of Butches
The times I’ve felt the most hopeful about my future as a 20-something transmasculine person is when I’ve had the privilege of interacting with older butches. My first distinct encounter with a butch person happened when I was 15 years old at the Ventura County Fair; they were helping their high femme girlfriend get onto the Ferris wheel, looking dapper in their Oakland Raiders jersey and long, tightly-woven braid.
Though the interaction was fleeting and basically parasocial, moments like this always felt like Easter eggs from older, wiser queers — a sign to tell me you can live a masc life. I’m not alone in my admiration; butches have been a backbone of modern queer spaces since before the term was even coined in the early 20th century. From Stormé DeLarverie throwing the first punch at the Stonewall Uprisings to Leslie Feinberg penning groundbreaking novels about queer and trans experience like Stone Butch Blues and Drag King Dreams to Jeanne Córdova helping found the West Coast queer liberation movement, butches have helped shape the modern fight for queer and trans liberation.
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 1:58 pm to djmed
I don’t want to learn about BamaAtl
Posted on 4/16/24 at 1:59 pm to djmed
You created that with a random word generator, right?
I especially liked "high femme." I am guessing that it is an upgrade from "lipstick lesbian."
My favorite lesbian joke:
I especially liked "high femme." I am guessing that it is an upgrade from "lipstick lesbian."
My favorite lesbian joke:
quote:
What does a lesbian drive to the second date?
U-Haul Truck.
This post was edited on 4/16/24 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 4/16/24 at 2:07 pm to djmed
Lesbian couples are generally a more masculine with a more feminine. Used to be called 'butch' and 'queen.' A lot of times the 'queen' is not feminine by nature but wears a dress and makeup to please the butch.
I've always been interested in language. 'Hetero' = male or female.
'Homosexual' = male or female. However 'gay' refers to men and 'lesbian' to women. Why the distinction? I have a theory based on my lifetime encounters with both. Gay men are actually gay (happy). They are upbeat, funny, cheerful and open to friendship with straights. Lesbians are dour, angry, and suspicious of straights. 'Gay' just wouldn't fit them.
I've always been interested in language. 'Hetero' = male or female.
'Homosexual' = male or female. However 'gay' refers to men and 'lesbian' to women. Why the distinction? I have a theory based on my lifetime encounters with both. Gay men are actually gay (happy). They are upbeat, funny, cheerful and open to friendship with straights. Lesbians are dour, angry, and suspicious of straights. 'Gay' just wouldn't fit them.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 2:12 pm to djmed
That's just a bunch of made up words strung together to form an in-cohesive mess of... nothing.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 2:13 pm to djmed
I find them usually more tolerable than their male counterparts.
Most of them Ive met are pretty cool.
Most of them Ive met are pretty cool.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 2:21 pm to Zach
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Lesbians are dour, angry, and suspicious of straights.
And with each other. They are pretty vindictive when they're pissed.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 2:52 pm to djmed
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The Queer History of Butches
Leftists will be rushing to stock this book in elementary schools and kid libraries.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 2:59 pm to djmed
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West Coast queer liberation movement
Is this West Coast Ag’s group?
On another note, butch lesbians are still women.
They may dress and act in a masculine manner, but they aren’t guys (no women are, no matter what the lunatic left promotes). That guys for guys dressing up like chics. They aren’t women.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 3:59 pm to djmed
Here's the problem..
WTF is transmasculine? Why do they insist on fricking everything up? Even the parts of our society that were fricked up used to have a certain order and symmetry to them.
Everyone knew about dykes and lesbos, the homos and figs, the sexual omnivores in between and everyone was generally cool with each other and got along. Everyone knew the terrain and their own limits to what they would tolerate being around.
No. This modern fight for queer and tranny goofballs is corporation supported, manufactured BS. It is starting to lose support amongst the rest of the alphabet people so they're now sucking up to the dykes.
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20-something transmasculine person
WTF is transmasculine? Why do they insist on fricking everything up? Even the parts of our society that were fricked up used to have a certain order and symmetry to them.
Everyone knew about dykes and lesbos, the homos and figs, the sexual omnivores in between and everyone was generally cool with each other and got along. Everyone knew the terrain and their own limits to what they would tolerate being around.
quote:
butches have helped shape the modern fight for queer and trans liberation.
No. This modern fight for queer and tranny goofballs is corporation supported, manufactured BS. It is starting to lose support amongst the rest of the alphabet people so they're now sucking up to the dykes.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:22 pm to lsuguy84
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I don’t want to learn about BamaAtl
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:57 pm to djmed
Have any of these XX Chromosome containing individuals accomplished anything substantial in the fields of education, medicine, law, government, the arts, STEM, or any of the trades? For example:
Education: Have they taught small children the three R's (as opposed to hosting story hours led by degenerate mentally ill males)?
Medicine: Have they successfully treated sick people (as opposed to zipping them in body bags after pumping them with mRNA or remdesivir and hooking them up to a ventilator)?
Business: Have they successfully opened and operated a restaurant or a brick and mortar store or even an etsy site (as opposed to throwing bricks through windows and then taunting the shop owner for having insurance)?
Or are they just getting attention for how they dress and what causes them "pleasure?"
Narcissism, narcissism, endless narcissism. Actual accomplishment is not celebrated. Unwarranted attention is given to pronouns and whether or not one wears combat boots and denim or lipstick and ruffles.
The Arts: Peter Ilich Tschaikowsky wrote beautiful music and he's honored for that and rightfully so, IMO. Regarding his private life, he did write a ballet song about a sugar plum fairy. But he's remembered for his musical talents and not a lot of narcissistic twaddle about him and his boyfriend and how oppressed they were.
(And now he's getting cancelled; this fruitcake musical conductor at an outdoor concert last summer had to get in his digs before grudgingly leading the orchestra in the 1812 Overture.)
No wonder our country is circling the drain.
Education: Have they taught small children the three R's (as opposed to hosting story hours led by degenerate mentally ill males)?
Medicine: Have they successfully treated sick people (as opposed to zipping them in body bags after pumping them with mRNA or remdesivir and hooking them up to a ventilator)?
Business: Have they successfully opened and operated a restaurant or a brick and mortar store or even an etsy site (as opposed to throwing bricks through windows and then taunting the shop owner for having insurance)?
Or are they just getting attention for how they dress and what causes them "pleasure?"
Narcissism, narcissism, endless narcissism. Actual accomplishment is not celebrated. Unwarranted attention is given to pronouns and whether or not one wears combat boots and denim or lipstick and ruffles.
The Arts: Peter Ilich Tschaikowsky wrote beautiful music and he's honored for that and rightfully so, IMO. Regarding his private life, he did write a ballet song about a sugar plum fairy. But he's remembered for his musical talents and not a lot of narcissistic twaddle about him and his boyfriend and how oppressed they were.
(And now he's getting cancelled; this fruitcake musical conductor at an outdoor concert last summer had to get in his digs before grudgingly leading the orchestra in the 1812 Overture.)
No wonder our country is circling the drain.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 6:01 pm to OzonaOkapi
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OzonaOkapi
Hello Hank.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 6:02 pm to Godfather1
Now I can’t unsee it, across multiple threads
Posted on 4/16/24 at 6:17 pm to lsuguy84
He just doesn’t get it. 
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:56 am to djmed
I've got a guy at work that always called butches bull daggers. I thought he made the shite up. Apparently it's a thing.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:52 am to djmed
So powerful, brave, inclusive and diverse. 
An academic articulation of absolutely worthless subject matter.
An academic articulation of absolutely worthless subject matter.
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