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re: The Pope is actually black?
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:25 pm to Crimson Wraith
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:25 pm to Crimson Wraith
His ancestors lived in the Seventh Ward and were of mixed race, I.e., Creole.
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Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:26 pm to 4cubbies
quote:George Herriman created the klassik komik strip Krazy Kat
His grandparents were New Orleans 7th ward Creoles
His family left NO for L.A, in the 1890s where they could pass for white
I don't know if this was widely known during his life (he died in 1944)
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:27 pm to Crimson Wraith
Did Sunny mention that her ancestors owned slaves?
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:27 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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they claim anyone with a single drop
That was actually the law in Louisiana up until 1983.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:30 pm to Crimson Wraith
Did you guys know Beethoven was black? LINK
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:31 pm to Crimson Wraith
I thought the one drop rule was something only white racists subscribed to? Good to know blacks don't consider that racism anymore.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:32 pm to VOR
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were of mixed race, I.e., Creole.
Creole and mixed race aren’t the same thing. The term creole isn’t a racial thing.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:40 pm to Barstools
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I thought the one drop rule was something only white racists subscribed to?
It used to be the law in the South.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:42 pm to SloaneRanger
The Creole thing is debated among some people, iIn N.O. The term came to be used for people of French, Caribbean and African ancestry. The Charbonnets and Morials are of Creole descent whether they acknowledge it or not.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:46 pm to VOR
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The Creole thing is debated among some people, iIn N.O.
Creole includes all of the following: Whites of French descent, whites of Spanish descent, mixed race people included in the above and free people of color who identified culturally as French or Spanish.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:49 pm to Harry Boutte
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used to be the law in the South.
So are saying the the old South was or was not racist?
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:51 pm to Crimson Wraith
I’ve seen nothing verifying this. The only thing I’ve seen is articles claiming he’s Creole. The Facebook group New Orleans Italians has a post showing actual birth/death dates of some of his ancestors that point to Italian, French, and Spanish ancestry. There’s articles in Italian language newspapers saying he’s part Italian and I found an article out of Aboylles saying he’s Italian and French.
Might have to be a group member to see the post New Orleans Italians
Might have to be a group member to see the post New Orleans Italians
This post was edited on 5/13/25 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:52 pm to SloaneRanger
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Creole and mixed race aren’t the same thing. The term creole isn’t a racial thing.
Yep, the Spanish used the term to distinguish between Spaniards born in colonies vs. Spaniards born in Spain.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:53 pm to Crimson Wraith
Why does sunny judge people by the color of their skin and not the content of their character?
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:55 pm to Crimson Wraith
We wuz Popes!!
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:59 pm to Crimson Wraith
Trump lives in Hostin and Miss Housekeeping ‘s heads rent free.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:03 pm to Crimson Wraith
There is only one way to settle this. Pope Robert has to get on TV and say "the N word". The response will tell us his true color.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:05 pm to vl100butch
I thought mulatto and octaroon were off color and politically improper terms?
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:06 pm to Barstools
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So are saying the the old South was or was not racist?
I'm saying that if Pope Leo went to Louisiana up until he was about 30, he would have been legally black.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:07 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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His grandparents were white-passing in Chicago but not in New Orleans.
People in New Orleans would have known their parents and known that there was a black persona in the lineage.
The only two cities where Cabbage Ball is played are Chicago and New Orleans. I wonder if the holy father’s grandparents are responsible for that.
This post was edited on 5/13/25 at 9:13 pm
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