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re: The Panama Canal is running dry. That's the U.S.'s fault and the U.S.'s problem
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:34 pm to alphaandomega
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:34 pm to alphaandomega
Mountains.
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:34 pm to djmed
When exploring expanding the Canal the feasibility studies warned that the increase in water needs to power the additional locks would stress the lakes and threaten drinking water supplies and the ability to use the canal.
This has been known for some time.
This has been known for some time.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:35 pm to alphaandomega
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Is the water level not the same for both oceans? I assume sea level is the same everywhere with the exception of tidal changes. Why does there need to be dams and not just a channel that allows the water to flow between the two locations?
Read my post above yours. Ships enter at either ocean, get raised a hundred feet or so via locks, traverse a lake that’s NOT at sea level, and then get lowered back down on the other side.
The majority of the canal is not at sea level.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:36 pm to Indefatigable
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“Just make the whole thing sea level” is a really fricking dumb assessment.
But in the context of "blame America because I can't do my job" it's a fitting answer.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:39 pm to djmed
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acknowledge we are part of the problem.
Still waiting for a truly scientific study to prove to me that climate change is caused by humans.
While doing that, explain how previous climate changes did not exist prior to this one? Or were those changes also due to human activity?
Instead of spending trillions of dollars making other rich people richer with this climate change reversal bullshite, why not spend money on new technologies that will make it easier for humans to withstand the impact of any climate changes... hoax or otherwise.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:43 pm to Ribbed
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But in the context of "blame America because I can't do my job" it's a fitting answer.
Is it someone’s job to make sure that it rains enough to fill Gatun lake? I’d think not.
Definitely stupid to try and blame industrialization in the US though, no doubt
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:45 pm to thelawnwranglers
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Lol couldn't they just design it not to use fresh water
Sure. Pump salt wafer from lock to lock as the ships traverse up and down the elevation changes. Why is fresh water even needed?
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:46 pm to tigerfan 64
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Why is fresh water even needed?
Because almost the entirety of the canal’s traversed length is way above sea level on a man-made, freshwater lake.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:47 pm to Indefatigable
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Is it someone’s job to make sure that it rains enough to fill Gatun lake? I’d think not.
If my economy depended on such a unique gold mine of industry, I might spend more time fixing those issues and less time chasing climate change, but I'm not a South American tin pot communist. If he isn't expected to be capable of resolving the issue, why are we?
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:47 pm to tigerfan 64
Try running salt water through your car and you will see.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:48 pm to goatmilker
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Try running salt water through your car and you will see.
The ships going through the canal seem to survive somehow.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:48 pm to Ribbed
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If he isn't expected to be capable of resolving the issue, why are we?
Honestly I WISH it was still our problem.
frick Jimmy Carter for giving away the canal that we built and maintained.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:51 pm to Ribbed
Jeezus christos.
Its not a river man. Lockes and gates and pumps and switches etc etc etc. Salt water corrodes and eats everything for dinner. To do a stainless steel refit on the whole canal would be very very expensive
Its not a river man. Lockes and gates and pumps and switches etc etc etc. Salt water corrodes and eats everything for dinner. To do a stainless steel refit on the whole canal would be very very expensive
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:51 pm to thelawnwranglers
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Lol couldn't they just design it not to use fresh water
Sure. Pump salt water from lock to lock as the ships traverse up and down the elevation changes. Why is fresh water even needed?
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:52 pm to Indefatigable
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Honestly I WISH it was still our problem. frick Jimmy Carter for giving away the canal that we built and maintained.
I won't argue with any of that.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:52 pm to djmed
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Although the canal connects two oceans, its operation depends upon fresh water from a nearby lake, which has been dwindling during a 20-year drought. As a result, there is not as much water for vessels to sail through — or for local communities to drink.
To alleviate this issue, might I suggest pumping the canal locks full of, you know, fricking saltwater from the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans that border both ends of the very narrow strait?
Nah. That's too logical. Muh global warming! That's better.
Cathodic technology actually does exist to prevent oxidation caused by seawater. Marine vessels, private companies, militaries and governments have been using these technologies for decades and they improve consistently. I guess the only place nobody thought to put them was in the single busiest commercial canal in the world? Makes sense.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:53 pm to tigerfan 64
quote:People that ask this question definitely think that the Panama Canal looks like the Suez Canal all the way through.
Why is fresh water even needed?
Almost the entire traversal of the isthmus is way above sea level on a man-made lake/waterway. The locks on either side just put the ships up into that body of water.
The middle part between Colon and PC isnt some concrete/canalized waterway. It’s an open lake with shipping channels.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:54 pm to djmed
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Evidence of human influence on climate change is so pronounced
The Biggest Hoax in global history continues
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:54 pm to Indefatigable
I blame public education Christ almighty.
Christ almighty.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:54 pm to djmed
Things were better in Panama when Dictator Noriega was trafficing cocaine and weapons for Reagan & the CIA.
Back then you would just send some money or guns to help Manuel oppress the people and he would just kill anyone who expressed any anti-american opinions.
RR really knew just how to control the third world - let me tell you.
Back then you would just send some money or guns to help Manuel oppress the people and he would just kill anyone who expressed any anti-american opinions.
RR really knew just how to control the third world - let me tell you.
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