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re: The only one who ever receives the death penalty from rape

Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:05 am to
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:05 am to
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So, when a college coed loved one of yours is violently raped by a homeless man when she decided to walk home from the bar, your perspective might change


Get a rape kit done to preserve evidence, then take the morning after pill

Why is that not how it's supposed to go?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:07 am to
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The only one who ever receives the death penalty from rape


quote:

I lose all respect for anyone who argues a woman should be forced to have a baby from rape.


She isn't forced.

She can take the morning after pill
Posted by CharlesLSU
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:17 am to
Right. Big. Ed.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:20 am to
I get that it’s rare, but to the victim it’s reality.

I am no fan of abortion but there are some very misguided perspectives.

Understand AL is an unusual exception and the vast majority will not follow.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:25 am to
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Brah, at this moment I’d like to punch you in the face.


Liberals are so violent.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:29 am to
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Liberals are so violent.


Liberals like to attempt to scare people with rhetoric. dude is about 60 years old and has bad knees from playing football and is carrying around 200 pounds of extra fat.

yeah, scary stuff.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:40 am to
I'd be fine with the death penalty for forcible rape.

You can't force a female to birth their rapist's child. Until the hardliners on the pro-life side make those concessions, they will always have less support than they ordinarily would, from people like me.

If every life counts, it's unfathomable to me that those concessions can't be made. Drawn in black and white, you could probably get pro-life bills in 60-75% of the states, saving hundreds of thousands of children.

With an all or nothing approach, you have to be okay with nothing. In this case, nothing is millions of murdered babies. I don't see how that's okay for anyone, much less those who call themselves pro-life.

Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:45 am to
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I get that it’s rare, but to the victim it’s reality.


There are 600,000 to 800,000 abortions in the U.S. per year in recent years... Some would argue the number is 1 million but let's just go with the 600,000 to 800,000 number...

Hard to get a good number on pregnancies as a result of rape but it looks like the low end is around 25,000 and the high end might be 50,000 per year...

There are not good numbers on pregnancy as a result of incest (which some would fall into the rape category)…
Given that, lets just go with the 50,0000 number for both categories...

1% of all abortions (actually less than 1% but lets just make it a full 1%) performed annually are for the mother's health... so, about 8,000 there...

So, based on your argument, there are about 60,000 abortions in a year in this country that you would view as "justified".... But oops, about 70% of pregnant rape victims carry their baby to term...

The sad fact is, abortion is utilized as a means of birth control in this country and the vast majority of women seeking abortions in this country are in their lower 20's... We would not even be having this discussion and no one would be passing any laws if abortion was limited to "justified" reasons for seeking one...

I do not support abortion in any manner but I am not against health of the mother or cases where it involved incest/rape and the morning after pill was not an option...
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:49 am to
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Why don’t rape victims taking plan B pills?



They are probably too busy dealing with the emotional and psychological shock of being raped.
Posted by Gus007
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:51 am to
The woman in Muslim countries?
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:52 am to
too traumatized to swallow a pill... yeah right.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:52 am to
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too traumatized to swallow a pill... yeah right.




You ever been raped?
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:54 am to
so is it the official liberal stance that abortio laws should be changed nationally to only allow the baby murder for convicted rape cases?

how about let the hospital administer it. Too traumatized to go to the hospital?
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 7:55 am
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:54 am to
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. But oops, about 70% of pregnant rape victims carry their baby to term...



I keep seeing this quoted as fact. Can someone provide a link?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:54 am to
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Lastly, the Morning after pill is available, which virtually makes the whole issue go away.



If you don't support the exception for rape, you shouldn't support the morning after pill either.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:55 am to
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It’s clear to a fool.

I respectfully request that you watch your use.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21856 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:56 am to
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Why don’t rape victims taking plan B pills?


quote:

They are probably too busy dealing with the emotional and psychological shock of being raped.



And yet of the 5% who wind up pregnant, 70% carry full term

The morning after pill should be offered with every rape kit
Posted by Jyrdis
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:56 am to
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so is it the official liberal stance that abortio laws should be changed nationally to only allow the baby murder for convicted rape cases?

how about let the hospital administer it. Too traumatized to go to the hospital?


I have zero idea. I’m not a liberal. I’m asking you if you’ve ever been raped.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27061 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:56 am to
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Can someone provide a link?


Try G O O G L E... I know it is hard to spell...
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
62856 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:56 am to
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If you don't support the exception for rape, you shouldn't support the morning after pill either


This is really fricking stupid, and I feel like you need it explained to you.

Did you know you can support the Bama law and still support abortion? Because it really seems like you didn't know that.
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