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re: The one huge major divide amongst Conservatives

Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:21 am to
Posted by hansenthered1
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:21 am to
Antisemitism is a growing problem for the right. It's beyond just being critical Israel. The left were the open antisemites in 2024 and before but over the last year it's really grown quickly on the right in terms of being normative. A lot of it has to do with social media, certain influencers and places where the hate can be shared within a "safe space" like here on PT.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57225 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:21 am to
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Did they hire podcasters to be the head of the FBI that talked about exposing all of this stuff or no?


So dumb and completely irrelevant to his point. fricking moron.
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
908 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:21 am to


Never forget
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:22 am to
Such a bad look for both the admin and the people being hypocrites on the issue, ignoring their prior stances to adopt NPC talking points
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1690 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:23 am to
Culture

You've got conservatives who are doing well in the new economy, others who feel and are being left behind. Those who feel left behind will generally lean more and more on cultural issues as time goes on.

Home ownership costs/taxes/insurance is an issue that brings most all conservatives together. Wish we'd focus more there, esp on a State level.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170755 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:24 am to
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Never forget

I didn't

People like BBONDS don't think it's relevant. Politically speaking it absolutely is. They stepped on their own landmine.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
59156 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:25 am to
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Antisemitism is a growing problem for the right.
racism, sexism, and transphobia are big problems for the right
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297576 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:25 am to
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It's a strawman being blown out of proportion.


Its amazing.

The only real issue is the economy. No votes of substance hinge on the Israeli issue.

Of course, Republicans will blow it fricking around with ideals that only matter to social media drama queens.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57225 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:27 am to
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People like BBONDS don't think it's relevant. Politically speaking it absolutely is. They stepped on their own landmine.


I never said that. Moron. I simply pointed out you’re a hypocrite and a disingenuous piece of shite. And I am correct.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:29 am to
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Antisemitism is a growing problem for the right. It's beyond just being critical Israel.


No, its not.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:32 am to
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:33 am to
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Greater than 90% of the Right support Israel


You are way off and also defiant about it. Not a great combination.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 9:34 am
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2445 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:35 am to
DEI is racism, openly misandrist policy is sexism as forcing people to accept men as women is transgenderism...all of these are losing issues for the left. The left have long be openly antisemitic. The divest movement an the causal Islamism of Gaza show us that if the right can rein in their crazies, they are actually set to be the closer to the moderate majority than the commie left.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 9:37 am
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:36 am to
DC Draino
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
3378 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:39 am to
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The left have long be openly antisemitic. The divest movement an the causal Islamism of Gaza show us that if the right can rein in their crazies, they are actually set to be the closer to the moderate majority than the commie left.


And yet every Jew I know or have known vote left. Every single one. Never have been able to rationalize it logically. Someone enlighten me, please.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:39 am to
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I'm kind of digging that Jewish princess


-Winnie, February 27, 2025

LINK
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 9:40 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467071 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:42 am to
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And yet every Jew I know or have known vote left. Every single one. Never have been able to rationalize it logically.


It's not difficult, especially within the context of this thread.

Israel =/= "Jews"

The left (and many on the right) hate Israel and Israel-first Zionists. Those are the people adding fuel to the fire of the conflict with the Palestinians. The Left see the Palestinians as a marginalized group being discriminated against/genocided by Israel (not "the jews")

Urban-American Jews are much less likely to be Israel-first Zionist types. Why would you expect them to blindly follow Israel other than ignorantly connecting the population cohort to the country?
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:43 am to
Im not anti Semitic. I've dated several Jewish women.

To the OP - Shapiro and Levins and Rubins influence has cratered. Tucker Candace and Fuentes have exploded (the latter while still being banned). Fuentes gets 2.5 times the likes that Shapiro gets on social media. If he weren't banned on YT and Spotify hed easily outdraw Shapiro
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 9:48 am
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2919 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:52 am to
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Israel. And it’s the major topic that is tearing the Right apart.


Resentment and suspicion directly or indirectly as a result of these subtext issues:

-- America-Firsters are blackwashed with the 'anti-Semite', "hate" label for daring to disagree with and oppose Israeli policies

-- This topic has exposed AIPAC exerting far more agenda control and influence over Congress critters via $$$ and junkets than imagined

-- Topic has exposed questionable degrees of unethical quid pro quo arrangements via $$$ in election contributions

-- This topic has exposed possible serious conflict-of-interest issues, dual-loyalties and subservience to a foreign interests and agenda

-- Exposed the degree of bullying and threats to American citizens, law-makers and those who dare challenge & question present and past narratives

-- Exposing and revealing the sheer weight of MSM, intra-goobermental influence, control and propaganda exerted to program Americans into embracing decades-long unconditional "greatest ally" narrative




Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2445 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:57 am to
You don't know many Jews....
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