re: The Official Thread: Russia invades Ukraine

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In medicine, we have a saying that if you hear the sound of hoofbeats outside, expect to see a horse, not a zebra. Common things are common and rare things are rare,

In a war with Russia, your enemy striking your infrastructure and killing your civilians is the horse (Russian false flag narratives are too). Actual false flags are the zebra.

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Look up how common false flags are during war.
It's pretty common. In fact US Department of Defense has been screaming false flag over anything Russia does.

They said Russia will attack Russia to invade. Yeah, I don't think this medical analogy is really useful here.

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Your post earlier about the fog of war is apt - you seem to imply a sort of nihilism about coming by truth under our current circumstances. Do you see posting Russian propaganda as a way to keep all the dupes from buying into Western propaganda?

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Obviously you should see all sources of information available. Then people can debate, analyze, debunk and draw their own conclusions. YouTube, Facebook and big media censorship of information coming from Russia doesn't do anyone any favors.


Being spoonfed one side of the conflict will not paint a full picture of the situation. We have a media crisis in US at this moment, where it is clear the media is no longer an impartial reporter of information, so you need as much information as you can get. This is why I support independent reporters like Lancaster etc...There have been few honest French reports who have been outstanding in covering both sides of the story in East Ukraine.

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There's a popular theory that Putin came to power on the back of false-flag attacks in Russia that were pinned on Chechens. Do you believe that false flag or are you mostly a Western-false-flag sort of a false-flag theorist?

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If you are referring to apartment bombings in Russia in 1999, it is completely plausible KGB, hence Vladdy, was behind that attack. This was Russia's pretext for war with Chechnya and Putin wasn't the established figure he has become. I give it 80/20 likelyhood those bombings were done by KGB agents.

Governments throughout history were willing to sacrifice their own citizen to stay in power and push agenda or do so "for the greater good". This is why I don't rule out Ukraine staging Bucha killings(which isn't very hard to do given the amount of dead civilians) and I wouldn't put it past them to shoot a missile at railway station full of people, which would have a good propaganda effect AND force more people to stay in the city making it harder for Russians to conduct invasion.

From Business Insider:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVumec3ZQ9A

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US government just yesterday admitted to putting out false info to "prevent" Russia from doing things.

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I don't buy this... I think this is in fact misinformation...

I think we have broken Russian encryption and new what was going to happen in advance.. but we don't want them to know we know..

So it was really just a lucky guess...

wink wink..

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Look up how common false flags are during war.

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Have there been any Russian false flags or is it just the other side that does them?

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We don't need to speculate. We know they have them, unless they decided to sink them at the bottom of the ocean for some stupid reason (they didn't)

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We know they have them, we know they use old equipment, and reports prior to today say they used them.

Issue with false flag attacks in a war zone is how hard it is to accurately verify. The IA's and governments on both sides will point fingers at one another, and no independent investigators will be able to access the site.

Russia wasn't kicked out of the UN, it's not even possible

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We don't need to speculate. We know they have them, unless they decided to sink them at the bottom of the ocean for some stupid reason (they didn't)

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No we don't. Russia has been involved in bombing ISIS along with US which depleted a lot of ammunition supplies of both countries. Along with Chechnya war where they leveled cities, Georgia conflict, the 2014 Ukraine-escalation. US even stated that our depots were running low from all the bombing raids. Needless to say Russia couldn't have been in any better position.

Ukraine is openly using Tochka-U's, it's their main mid/long range missile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtoIJhR76gw

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Ukraine is openly using Tochka-U's,

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And so has Russia. Let the chips fall where they may.

It may never be proven that Russia fired that missile or if Ukraine fired that mussel, but it’s just another red herring.

The most important thing is we know Russia invaded a sovereign country again, they have bombed civilians again and they really don’t care who are what they destroy to gain power.

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