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re: The Official Thread: Russia invades Ukraine

Posted on 4/5/22 at 10:17 pm to
Posted by dr90210
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 10:17 pm to


260 Ukrainians surrendendered in Mariupol. It was 10s-20s, now it's by 100s. From yesterday.

@ OT snowflakes
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Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 10:21 pm to
They didn’t publicly execute a negotiator. The negotiator drove through a checkpoint without stopping (he was supposedly wanted for arrest) and when his car crashed and the military went to arrest him, he pulled a gun and started shooting. So they shot him to death.

It’s on video, I think I saw it maybe a week after the invasion began.
Posted by dr90210
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 10:25 pm to
Weapons DPR rebels have been seizing:

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Posted by dr90210
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

They didn’t publicly execute a negotiator. The negotiator drove through a checkpoint without stopping (he was supposedly wanted for arrest) and when his car crashed and the military went to arrest him, he pulled a gun and started shooting. So they shot him to death.

It’s on video, I think I saw it maybe a week after the invasion began.


That's a different guy altogether. That was a mayor or some other public figure. This was one of the initial negotiators. Bald guy. Got shot in front of the city building. He wasn't gunned down in a car.

I know who you're referring to- two different incidents of Ukrainians shooting one of their own.
Posted by dr90210
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 10:32 pm to
Mariupol is pretty much a done deal. The Azov is encircled and have nowhere to go.

Apparently the only pocket remaining is AzovSteel Plant. My guess is Russia doesn't want to destroy the plant and keep some of the infrastructure intact because they could just level the whole thing if they wanted to and be done with it. It's not really a residential area.
Posted by dr90210
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:04 pm to
Apparently Ukraine resumed shelling of Donetsk again last night, injuring a young girl.

They cry about civilians casualties, then commit identical acts. And this has been ongoing for years in Ukraine's civil conflict.

Patrick Lancaster seems to be the only reporter brave enough to cover from the viewpoint of rebels:

Lancaster YouTube
Posted by Sooner5030
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:10 pm to
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Wonder who this is lol
Posted by dr90210
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:15 pm to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ2ZzoD-W0&t=6s

Lancaster also did interview with Mariupol residents. Not surprisingly few if any support Azov.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:36 am to
Bellingcat is a British information operation.

The Brits love this crap for reasons I’ll never understand. They’ve been doing it since WW1 and god knows, probably before it. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights is another example of this. And on a much grander scale, the White Helmets in Syria.
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Posted by dr90210
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:52 am to
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Bellingcat is a British information operation.

The Brits love this crap for reasons I’ll never understand. They’ve been doing it since WW1 and god knows, probably before it. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights is another example of this. And on a much grander scale, the White Helmets in Syria.

Is Lancaster associated with them?
I've seen his videos back in 2015 and 16 about Donabass war and then just like everyone else forgot all about it.

He's nuts to be out there again. I don't think he's doing it for money- with amount of reporters killed doing that kind of reporting, he's risking his life for sure. I'm glad his YT channel has been growing. He was at like 200k subs last week, now went over 300k.

Hopefully Tucker or Jimmy Dore bring him on to give him some more well-earned spotlight for his reporting.
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 12:55 am
Posted by sta4ever
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:24 am to
You want the Ukrainians to surrender and have Russia take them over?
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 5:45 am to
If I’m that guy I would have a banner on my car say “negotiator.” Too many stories of civilians being shot leaving Ukraine and other areas. Ukraine soldiers are the biggest perpetrators of this, especially in the beginning when they wouldn’t let people leave. Hundreds and hundreds of videos and testimonies from citizens reporting this with sources from all over the world there reporting it. The Russian corridors that were negotiated, which the Ukrainian soldiers tried to undermine, were the citizens only way out, especially early on. This was reported by dozens and dozens of international news sources. Many citizens were shot at and killed. Zelensky then proceeds to blame Russians in a series of weak attempts to get the west to intervene
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Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 5:51 am to
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Mariupol is pretty much a done deal. The Azov is encircled and have nowhere to go. Apparently the only pocket remaining is AzovSteel Plant. My guess is Russia doesn't want to destroy the plant and keep some of the infrastructure intact because they could just level the whole thing if they wanted to and be done with it. It's not really a residential area


One of the primary goals of the Russians is to eliminate all of these despicable frickers in the Nazi Azov battalion. You can tell by the areas where Russian troops are focused on. I have no problem with this. These assholes have rained hell on Ukrainian citizens, especially in the east, perpetrated the extreme violence in what was a peaceful protest around election time back in 2014. They murder people in mass, including women and children. The damage they have done in 8 years has been unimaginable. All at the behest of nazis in the Ukrainian government and armed and backed by the US state department and CIA.
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 5:53 am
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:00 am to
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So you don’t really know what happened, you are just here to denounce anti Russian propaganda. You don’t have any credible information


Nothing can be trusted from the Ukrainian side. They push out endless lies. Their credibility has been blown to smithereens. Dead people in the street means nothing in a war zone. I’ve seen no evidence Russians actually did this, although I’m sure it happens. They very well may have, but we also don’t know how this happened, what let to these deaths, or who actually did it
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 6:13 am
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:04 am to
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So you don’t really know what happened, you are just here to denounce anti Russian propaganda. You don’t have any credible information


We could find out if Russia’s attempts to talk about it at the UN Security Council, but to no one’s surprise, it was denied. That doesn’t instill confidence. It’s typical shite from the west to keep their narrative and destroy any chance of getting a full account to the truth
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:06 am to
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This is what happens when you hand out guns to everyone in your country. They become a target. I have been following the combat footage since this all started and Civs have been killed since day 1. It is interesting its become more mainstream once the "steam" of the war started to drag


Exactly, and it’s suspicious that they are focusing on just this one particular instance, almost like they have an agenda, which they do
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:11 am to
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I work with a Ukraine aid organization. I can tell you first hand the Russians are killing whole villages of Ukrainians. Anybody that throws around the fake news title for stuff like that is wrong


That doesn’t surprise me. What’s left out of the story is Ukrainians burying themselves in these communities. Russians aren’t going to waste their time bombing random areas with no threat. That makes no sense, especially when they are doing as little as possible to kill civilians. Why? Because they are trying to win people over, not enrage the public to creat more problems for themselves. All it takes is a little common sense, coupled with Russia’s own statements. The fact that the number of civilian deaths is relatively low compared to most military conflicts backs up everything I just said
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 6:21 am
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:19 am to
One thing you never hear in the west is the most radical security groups like Azov in Ukraine also killing civilians, also bombing civilian areas during fights, forcing fleeing people to fight at gun point. They are causing major damage because these types don’t care at all, and they have no problem killing certain types of people in Ukraine. They use mercenaries as cannon fodder.

The faster Russia eliminates these evil bastards the better. They are cowards. Hiding and resting and planning in schools, medical facilities, using emergency vehicles to move around, ditching small bases under attack after giving mercenaries no information about pending destruction as they escape.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:34 am to
Like I said, all you do is dispute reports showing Russian issues. Russia invaded Ukraine, but it’s the Ukrainians who are the bad guys and it’s the Russians who are being forced to bomb cities, kill civilians and destroy a neighboring country.

You are working overtime this morning. Do you have a link to anything you are posting?
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 7:05 am
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 6:53 am to
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LINK Lancaster also did interview with Mariupol residents. Not surprisingly few if any support Azov


As I’ve stated throughout this. Ukrainians, especially Azov, are destroying a ton and killing lots of people. Here’s more proof:






This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 7:03 am
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