re: The Next Recession Will Destroy Millennials

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You used the term "devolve" earlier, as if "if Jr doesn't get a professional degree, he is less"... So, yeah you are...

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go re-read that sentence again

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Why doesn't you graph include trade degrees or trade school or certification completion? Did I just miss it?

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they're in the "high school diploma" portion of the graph

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Oh, wow, so lets lump it all together on that level and it is correct...

I was incorrect in calling you a dumbass earlier, you sir are a fricking idiot...

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i did a cursory google search and couldn't find that data readily available but if you want to go find it i'd love to see it

The average (I know not median), skilled trade makes just below 50 based on a quick search, add in a wife making in the 30s and the household income gets into the 80s which is on par with a bachelors.

Point being, college educated parents raising skilled trade children is not a degradation in family achievement.

How fat are you? I can hear you wheezing from here

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well if we're trying to have generations surpass the previous one, why would professional class parents be raising their kids to devolve? it sounds harsh but it's a serious question, especially in the richest country in the world whose economy is largely based around much more advanced economic output

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Is your dad the snooty arse country club type ?

I’ve got no problem admitting that I’m not smart enough to come up with one. It’s too large of a problem for me.


But I do know a few things that won’t help us come up with that solution. Chief among them, simply admonishing younger generations for being less successful at finding reliable work. That won’t suddenly change reality.


I know this board will be about as receptive to this as a vampire is receiving a cross, but the solution probably needs to be a government driven one. My best current best guess for a solution is some type of tax on urban America where the proceeds go to facilitate private company partnerships and investments in rural America. The groups being left behind most quickly are in the provinces, so we’ve got to find a way to reengage those areas into the 21st century economy.


But even the perfect version of that scheme doesn’t work unless we fix the growing moral and ethical problems sweeping through our country. The best discussion of the problems and proposal for some of the starting points for a solution that I’ve seen were presented by Paul Collier in The Future of Capitalism. Highly recommended for everyone.

Im 33 and securely in the Middle Class, by 35, I should be Upper Middle.


Just face it, some folks just don't have the guts.

I’ll take it you’re obese from that non-response

i don't have anything against labor, esp skilled labor. one reason i get along so well in LC is that i enjoy the lack of pretentiousness in a population built on non-professional employment. this strawman that i'm mocking them is just crazy talk

the fact is, especially within this sort of discussion, that we as Americans want to raise our kids to be in a better place an higher station than we are. so if you're in the professional class, your goal is not to have your kid go backwards. that is not an insult to the working class and your kid isn't a failure if that happens. however, on the macro level, this is an economic disaster (and millenials are the first generation to face this and we may be the only ones to face this until the literal collapse of the USA)