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re: The most 'just' and 'moral' war in all of history

Posted on 4/3/19 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 3:00 pm to
There is a ton of literature on how Lenin weaseled his way into power. It’s a common myth that the Russian people overthrew the Tsar en mass. Biggest mistake ever made were by fellow Soviets who walked out on Lenin because they thought he was crazy.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 4:33 pm to
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Biggest mistake ever made were by fellow Soviets who walked out on Lenin because they thought he was crazy.


I wonder how differently the USSR would’ve turned out had it been Trotsky that got power after Lenin?
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 4:37 pm to
Wouldn't the answer also tend to be the most unjust war ever fought, just from the opposite perspective? Hmmm.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 5:07 pm to
Do Muslims not experience a much higher percentage of the wars/violence than the rest of the world?
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 5:31 pm to
Vietnam
























/s
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:04 pm to
Very different. Stalin was a monster. Trotsky much more sensible and well liked.
Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:26 pm to
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guess if you would have to choose a war, I guess it would be World War II. Germany and Japan were, after all, evil empires


Not even close.Any war in which Stalin was on the "right side"wasn't just or moral.

We also firebombed civilian targets in Dresden and Tokyo.Hell,Curtis Lemay admitted he would have been considered a war criminal under different circumstances.

I would say the Korean War was as moral and just war as this country as participated in.Look at the 2 Koreas now and you can see a clear difference between good and evil.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38991 posts
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:32 pm to
The Trojan War

You don't steal another man's wife.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:54 am to
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But IRL it's probably WWII bc Hitler


Except the people we put in power by defeating the Japanese and Germans killed exponentially more people in Russia and China

FDR was a pawn of Global Marxists
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 6:56 am
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:02 am to
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The most 'just' and 'moral' war in all of history


quote:

WW2


This is a joke?
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:03 am to
Rhodesian conflicts and maybe the Indian "wars" in America
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68464 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:38 am to
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FDR was a pawn of Global Marxists

Agree he was bought and paid for

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Except the people we put in power by defeating the Japanese and Germans killed exponentially more people in Russia and China

Collateral damage






jk
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52830 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 9:53 am to
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Collateral damage


Exactly, putting two regimes in power that kill 200 million people is OK, but destroying a regime fighting the people that killed a 100 million is the best thig ever ever
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94731 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 10:05 am to
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but I was under the impression the west didn't really know about and/or believe the holocaust was going on at the time and it wasn't until after troops started moving into the heart of German occupied territory that we knew what was going on.


Yeah, almost none of this is accurate. There was plenty of information getting out about the Holocaust.

Now, the West probably didn't know the breadth and scope of the extermination operation (hell, many folks within the Reich leadership didn't know all these details), but they knew it was going on.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 10:08 am to
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Rhodesian conflicts and maybe the Indian "wars" in America


This reminds me. I read an article a few months ago about the oldest surviving histories of ancient war. The Indians (feather) and Africans (SubSah) probably had some terrific wars a thousand years before Europeans arrived. But they didn't have writing so nothing survived.

OTOH, an ancient historian in Europe/Asia could walk into the palace of an enemy monarch and offer to chronicle his rule. The king's ego took over: 'Sure, just make sure you spell my name right.'
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 10:09 am to
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'the most just and moral that history has ever seen?'


Occurring right now. Homeland USA. Outcome will have world-wide, decades long history turning effects.

Enjoy the view.
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