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re: The Methodists are at it again
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:26 pm to DownSouthJukin
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:26 pm to DownSouthJukin
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There’s nothing in any of that that is remotely correct.
Because you don't know the father and thus have replaced him with the scribes and pharisees of today.
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:29 pm to 3down10
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Because you don't know the father and thus have replaced him with the scribes and pharisees of today.
I’m pretty sure I know the Father. You may think you know him. Good luck.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:30 pm to DownSouthJukin
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I’m pretty sure I know the Father. You may think you know him. Good luck.
And by which means did you find him?
Why did you choose to stay here?
This post was edited on 12/3/25 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:35 pm to 3down10
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I wouldn't set foot in a church for worship
Why? Followers of Christ back during these times worshipped daily in Churches.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:51 pm to riccoar
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Why? Followers of Christ back during these times worshipped daily in Churches.
The real church is built within based on understanding. We have understanding of math and thus we know 1+1=2 and 2+2=4 and we also know 1+2=5 is a false statement correct?
Does it do a man any real good to memorize 1+1=2 and 1+2=3 as true statements if he lacks the understanding behind it? Is such a man who has only memorized those things capable of knowing 1+2=5 if a so called "authority" tells them it's correct falsely? Even if you memorize every mathematical equation and it's answer and you can always give me the correct answer, is it actually useful to the man? Is that man actually going to be able to apply that to improve his daily life without understanding?
And at the same time, a man who has understanding doesn't need to memorize anything other than the labels used to express.
This was in a nutshell the rub between the scribes/pharisees and Jesus. And it continues to this day. I'm just not interested in ceremony.
So I mean you can do those things if you want, but what we are doing here is more about building the real church. Debate, discussion, these things bring understanding, not praising an idol and cherry picking a few verses here and there usually out of context and so forth.
This post was edited on 12/3/25 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 12/3/25 at 3:21 pm to FooManChoo
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Christians should not discriminate based on the doctrine of election precisely because no one knows who is elect except God. The secret things belong to God.
I say that it's probably difficult for many of your fellow congregants to keep what you say in mind.
It is far more easy to conclude "That person doesn't seem Christian to me. He must be predestined to go to Hell. If God hates him, I see reason for me to dislike and shun this person."
But this goes back to the universal challenge of catechizing the flock! If the flock can't or won't learn the correct doctrines, they are going to fall into error precisely because they failed to learn the correct way. Isn't every congregation and flock challenged by poorly catechized congregants? Of course.
This post was edited on 12/3/25 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 12/3/25 at 4:11 pm to 3down10
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It's more like how close to a fire does some one have to get before they pull away. And you do not know what someone can do. To atone for your sins is to fix your mistakes. And when you do that, you will be forgiven the same way you just want your child to do better. So while you may see someone today that you deem to be such a way, that doesn't mean that will be the case tomorrow. God never condemns anyone, they do it to themselves. There are real paths in this universe, that's part of your free will. You can go out and decide to rob a bank, and your path is going to likely include jail time etc. You can also choose to go out and help someone, make a friend etc. And your path is likely to be better. Keeping the commandments is a real path in this same way. And when you keep the commandments you will walk the path and that will lead to better things. Because if you are a thief, you are choosing that path and you can NOT be part of a society that doesn't have thieves. Your true transformation will take place in time as you experience and learn the lessons. That will be the way you are actually molded. I'm not a Christian, but Jesus shows the proper way to keep the commandments and thus shows the path. Not to be confused with the death cult that believes in taxi cab Jesus which keeps people from walking the path because they think they don't have to because Jesus did.
I have a buddy who talks like this. The only problem is non of it is based on actual truth that has any evidence to back it up in scripture.
The reason we can see that you are speaking out of your butt is we have a source for our truth that has the evidence to back it up that it came from the one true God. And you have to base your logic and ideas of God on feelings of possible revelation.
You’re right when you say you are not Christian. But I pray you repent and trust in Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. Follow morals all you want but the Bible says the law acts as a school teacher to show you your need for a savior, not some achievable goal of being a “good” person. You’re not good bro, none of us are but the Lord.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 4:37 pm to Mediocre
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I have a buddy who talks like this. The only problem is non of it is based on actual truth that has any evidence to back it up in scripture.
The reason we can see that you are speaking out of your butt is we have a source for our truth that has the evidence to back it up that it came from the one true God. And you have to base your logic and ideas of God on feelings of possible revelation.
You’re right when you say you are not Christian. But I pray you repent and trust in Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. Follow morals all you want but the Bible says the law acts as a school teacher to show you your need for a savior, not some achievable goal of being a “good” person. You’re not good bro, none of us are but the Lord.
The only thing saved by the death of truth is the lie, and the lie will live until the truth returns. You worship and follow the death of truth as your savior, I would say it's his life that saves.
His sacrifice is to come here on this earth and show people the correct path and the correct way to follow the commandments. How they didn't need all the religious authority to find God. Of which he knew he would be killed for and did it anyway. He did not have to do that, he did that to help people.
Christianity is the religion of Paul, not Jesus. That is why I do not consider myself a Christian. I do not worship his death. I never will.
I know the father and I know what Jesus says is true because I see the father in him. I know where his understanding comes from. It's the same understanding that ANYONE can access because God is within and if you seek the truth it is available. Yet you think only by becoming a Christian and worshiping the sacrifice can it happen. Even though Jesus says other people will hear the father.
I do not believe in Taxi Cab Jesus. It's like God comes to earth, puts a sign in the ground and says Heaven -> 50 miles. Some people see the sign and walk the 50 mile path. Some people get upset, they take the sign down and bury it. But people remember what the sign said anyway. But instead of them walking the 50 miles as the sign says, they sit around and worship the sign. Talk about how great the sign is, and that the sign will save them. And they sit and they wait and they wait.
I'm more interested in what the sign is saying and the path it's showing. Which I happen to know from other sources are correct instructions.
You can sit around and worship that sign and talk about how great the sign is and all that all you want and need that insurance. Wear a shovel around your neck if you want. All I'm saying is that in the meantime, maybe you should consider actually following what the sign says and start walking.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 5:46 pm to mtntiger
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It was not mandatory and left up to the pastors of individual churches. He decided for the church instead of letting the congregation vote.
Oh wow, I wonder what closed door meetings went on at the district level.
How long had that pastor been there?
Posted on 12/3/25 at 5:47 pm to 3down10
Methodist church has lost 2/3 of its membership in the last 20 years because of that crap. You can no longer say "the Methodists are at it Again". The Christian folks have left the methodist group think
Posted on 12/3/25 at 5:51 pm to Champagne
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Doesn't a firm belief in Double Predestination sort of command that kind of interpretation?
Little late back to the party, but I have seen wonderful double predestination people.
But I have also seen terrible ones.
Some of the most greedy and self centered churches I've had experience with were 5 point Calvinist.
Very bless your heart.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 5:53 pm to FooManChoo
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As someone who believes in "double predestination", I'll say that no, such a belief is no excuse to write off anyone as "not Christian enough".
Agreed, though I have met a number who have used it as a silent excuse. Its an elevated percentage.
Any excuse for being selfish mankind will take.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 6:23 pm to Night Vision
So glad our church left the UMC and went to the Global Methodist Church. This is a travesty.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 6:28 pm to Houag80
Wrong. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the only church I’m aware of that has not altered their doctrine to accommodate the homosexual agenda. Read The Proclamation of the Family issued years ago. They saw this coming well before it became mainstream.
Posted on 12/3/25 at 7:36 pm to StreamsOfWhiskey
I’ve never seen so much non truth about God in one thread.
The enemy is real and faith and faith alone in Christ alone can save a sinner from an eternal hell, that’s well deserved for our sin.
Repent and believe the gospel my friends!
You can’t earn heaven or right standing with a holy, just, merciful, righteous and perfect God except through Jesus by faith. None come to the Father but by Him.
He forgives sin but you must repent and believe. God bless.
The enemy is real and faith and faith alone in Christ alone can save a sinner from an eternal hell, that’s well deserved for our sin.
Repent and believe the gospel my friends!
You can’t earn heaven or right standing with a holy, just, merciful, righteous and perfect God except through Jesus by faith. None come to the Father but by Him.
He forgives sin but you must repent and believe. God bless.
This post was edited on 12/3/25 at 7:37 pm
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