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The media keeps saying whistleblower. This person does not qualify

Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:48 am
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:48 am
As I understand it, you cannot be a Whistleblower in this instance.If I am right, this individual does not have the protections a whistleblower would have in that case and would be subject to any applicable statutes and laws for what they have done here.

If they worked in the White House,they would be a plain old leaker, and subject to arrest.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40068 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:50 am to
Stop watching the media.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:54 am to
quote:

subject to arrest


nothing is stopping him. he should order his royal guard to seize the leaker.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:54 am to
As I was saying, this person is subject to arrest and anyone that leaked information to them is also subject to arrest.

They could probably hang an obstruction charge around Schiff's neck if he got this info and sat on it.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49185 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:54 am to
Everyone, including congressmen, are saying whstleblower. I assume until it is definitely determined he was not, so as to protect the idea of whistleblowers being protected.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:55 am to
The interesting thing is people make the argument that he can't be a whistleblower because he doesn't have first hand knowledge of what happened. I'm not sure if that's the case or not, but I don't see how this person would be guilty of leaking though. You can't leak if you don't have first hand knowledge. If this person got his information from others telling him, then I don't see how that person does anything wrong. The people telling him are leaking, but the whistleblower itself is not. In the end, it's a moot point as it would be incredibly ruinous for the White House to go after the whistleblower from a legal standpoint. The optics of that are horrible.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:56 am to
quote:

noun: whistleblower
a person who informs on a person or organization engaged in an illicit activity.
quote:

The Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989, 5 U.S.C. 2302(b)(8)-(9), Pub.L. 101-12 as amended, is a United States federal law that protects federal whistleblowers who work for the government and report the possible existence of an activity constituting a violation of law, rules, or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority or a substantial and specific danger to public health and safety.
I assume you are complaining that this instance does not fall within the WPA. Maybe so and maybe not, but the WPA is not the only definition of the term.
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 9:01 am
Posted by MarineVet
Member since Aug 2018
916 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:56 am to
When you break the law and leak against Trump then you are a whistle blower...when you leak on a demon-crat you have violated the law and will be prosecuted.

No double standard here...
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9130 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:57 am to
Don’t know if this person qualifies or not.

The Dems and MSM will say they do to fit the definition to try and accomplish their agenda regardless.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:57 am to
You can say it all day. But if DOJ decided they were not, they could be arrested and charged, and let a judge make that determination.This person passed on info that was leaked to him.

Which is probably what should happen. If Schiff had this info in advance and sat on it, he SHOULD be charged with Obstruction of Justice.
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 8:59 am
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29164 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:58 am to
Sound logic you’re using there lol
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36174 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:58 am to
This person is not a whistleblower.
He/she is a spy.
Quite simple really.
Spy =/= whistleblower
Posted by sotex
Member since Oct 2018
208 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:01 am to
The person is a Democrat who had a security clearance and once worked in the White House but then went back to working for the CIA elsewhere.

Democrats are nothing less than enemies of the American people, and the Constitution.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:01 am to
quote:

This person is not a whistleblower.
He/she is a spy.
Quite simple really.
Spy =/= whistleblower


How is this person a spy? Other people told him this. If you want to be unhappy with someone, be mad at them. There is nothing illegal about passing on information that you were told as long as you did nothing illegal to acquire it yourself.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73434 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:02 am to
quote:

How is this person a spy? Other people told him this. If you want to be unhappy with someone, be mad at them. There is nothing illegal about passing on information that you were told as long as you did nothing illegal to acquire it yourself.
Hearsay does not a WB make.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39437 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:03 am to
The report was an absolute sham and a tragic waste of time and resources. It completely mischaracterized the call, got key facts wrong, and was based entirely on rumors, second-hand info, and media reports that have since been proven false.

This report would not be admissible in any courtroom in America, yet its being used as a tool to launch congressional investigations and fuel an impeachment inquiry.

This person should be disciplined in some way for bastardizing the whistleblower process and filing a false report.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:03 am to
Do what the Democrats would do, arrest and charge the SOB, and drag that bastard through the courts for months, and let a judge figure it out. Play the game by THEIR rules. Let them howl who cares?

Bust anyone that leaked and do the same to them, it's time to play hardball.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:04 am to
quote:

Hearsay does not a WB make.


It also does not a spy make. I guess I don't understand the anger at the whistleblower though as they did nothing illegal. I understand being unhappy at the result, but you should be mad at the ones who told him the info.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36174 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:05 am to
quote:

How is this person a spy?


spy
/spi/
noun
a person who secretly collects and reports information on the activities, movements, and plans of an enemy or competitor.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39437 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:06 am to
Are you doing the whole ASURob thing where you use conservative images in your avi and sig as a sort of digital "beard" to mask your dripping leftism?

Its not working.
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