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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:12 am to somethingdifferent
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:12 am to somethingdifferent
quote:
"Fear" as in reality
Every person pushed into fear by shitty propaganda thinks its real
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Israel's initial attack was directed at military and nuclear targets. Quite precise attacks at that. Iran's response was directed at Civilian targets. By lobbing missiles at cities indiscrinately. That shows the difference between the 2 (Israel and Iran).
RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:12 am to Bard
quote:I'm waiting for some skyscreamer in this thread to offer up a realistic alternative to this. Terrorists will keep attacking us and any allies until they are dead and they couldn't care less about any sympathy we have for their "plight." That is a fact
Rinse and repeat until they stop funding terrorism
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:13 am to LemmyLives
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The hard liners hate us because of our support for the Shah and his corruption/decadence, no?
We overthrew their govt to install the Shah.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:13 am to somethingdifferent
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Irrelevant
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:13 am to ronricks
quote:NAIVE
Iranians aren't coming over here to fight
You can prove they aren't trying? You're full of crap and you don't even know it
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:14 am to somethingdifferent
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I choose to fight abroad, every time, without question. And yes, I am fully aware of all the crap that is a consequence of this approach; nation building, regime toppling, CIA, boots on the ground, cost of conflict, funding insurrectionists and then they become an enemy, MIC, etc. Do I want us to do unscrupulous, immoral, unjust things? Absolutely not but it's all necessary evil to keep the conflict as far away from the US as possible
I hear what you are saying here. But I also think America has to learn some lessons from our past for once and be much smarter, more measured about doing things like this.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:14 am to RollTide4547
quote:
Israel's initial attack was directed at military and nuclear targets. Quite precise attacks at that. Iran's response was directed at Civilian targets.
There is no doubt you actually believe this, and its most likely shitty propaganda
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:14 am to Pandy Fackler
quote:So you're ok with talking around the facts.
I've skimmed through the thread. So far, this post stands out. Have a Wednesday morning upvote
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:15 am to NIH
quote:Tell me what I said that's not a fact
Ahh we’re in the coping stage of this debacle
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:15 am to GeauxBurrow312
quote:Spot On.
they are still savages
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I addressed this already
We were a big part of this..
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:16 am to RollTide4547
quote:
they are still savages
Spot On.
Persians?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:17 am to RollTide4547
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I've talked with you several times here and where you're from has never come up....
If you knew me well in person it would have come up
And you can probably take a pretty good guess at where I'm from since I'm posting on an LSU sports board.
quote:
The leaders claim they are not pursuing a nuke, however they have enriched uranium to 60% when nuclear power can be produced with 3-4% enriched uranium.
Some countries use a policy of latent deterrence
Should we bomb all of them as well?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:17 am to somethingdifferent
quote:You are demanding yes or no answers to nuanced questions, and drawing specific conclusions, that is extremally dishonest.
Do we have enemies who want to destroy our way of life, yes or no? Yes. Is that sentiment political or religious? It's religious. Can we "stay out of it" or be passive and reactive and it not affect us? No. Those are facts
It is akin to:
Are there disadvantaged black people in the US, yes or no?
Will giving them huge amounts of money improve their quality of life even the slightest bit, yes or no?
Obviously we should commit to reparations, then
It is very disingenuous.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:18 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:You have evidence to support this? Or are you just flinging doo?
its most likely shitty propaganda
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:18 am to somethingdifferent
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Tell me what I said that's false in the OP
#1. Applies to other countries too. You gonna go to war with all of them.
#2 is some Bush/Cheney fear mongering bullshite. We’ve lived this out before. Do you guys just love war so much you’ll keep on falling for it. We have to protect our family!! (By going to war in some shithe for 20 years and wasting trillions)
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:19 am to prouddawg
quote:Tell me what I said that's not a fact
Yeah there’s no way the mainstream media would be fed some BS and push it out. Never seen that before
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:19 am to RollTide4547
quote:
You have evidence to support this?
Iran did hit one of their military support targets in Tel Aviv
And Israel is notorious for hurling bombs into civilian populations. They've done so recently in Gaza and in Lebanon.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:20 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:No matter what you call them, savages. The lot of them.
Persians?
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