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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing

Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:34 am to
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:34 am to
"Yall are naive" ...then proceeds to parrot a decades old media narrative.

I get it, Iran funds Hezbollah. what I wanna know is why? I want to hear Iran's side of the story for once. Why do they do this? Is all that's said about them true? Was there ever a real compromise point?

I dont wanna hear the media speak for Iran, Israel, or Jack Leg posting on the internet.

If your answer is just "they are evil" im just not gonna believe that



Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468043 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 8:39 am to
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The presence of 'a state' introduces the political. By definition.

It does not, especially in the context of past state structures.

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there was violence in support of a state (which means for political ends).


Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19524 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:05 am to
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It does not, especially in the context of past state structures.
I asked several questions: terrorism or not?

You did not reply so I am assuming you are incapable.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 9:42 am to
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More americans would die over there fighting for regime change than the next hundred years of iranian terrorism
It's fascinating that you think you know this for a fact
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 9:44 am to
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Lies. Nothing but lies
Yet it has happened in real life

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How about we change our foreign policy and stop being the policeman for the world
Because it's naive and stupid. Americans were isolationists until they realized they couldn't be any longer and it was absolultely the right choice

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The greatest threat by far that we face today is an invasion from third world shitholes by illegal immigrants allowed by Democrats
This does not contradict the OP
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 9:45 am to
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which came first, Islamic acts of terrorism against US citizens or US intervention into majority Muslim nations?
Why did you include "against US citizens?" Do you honestly believe that Islamic terrorists would not have attacked the US anyway? Do you know anything about Islamic terrorism?
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 9:47 am to
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Which Islamic Acts of terror against US citizens occurred prior to 1953?
What is this stupid question? How does this have any relevance to the topic?

It doesn't
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 9:48 am to
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which ones, specifically?
Well, we can start with Muhammad
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 9:49 am to
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Do you go around and punch every person in the face that hates you?


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Your argument is juvenile and asinine
Wow

You're not too bright are you

Do you even understand the topic being discussed?

Why did the US enter WW2?
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 9:52 am to
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then proceeds to parrot a decades old media narrative
Are you denying that Islamic terrorism exists?

It's amazing. 20+ pages and people STILL can't get the point

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I want to hear Iran's side of the story for once


Wow.

Have you ever heard of Islam?

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If your answer is just "they are evil" im just not gonna believe that
Ok. Feel free to study Islam something. You will get answers to your questions
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 9:42 pm to
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Roaad
Have you bothered to learn anything about Islamic terrorism yet? Let us know when you can break down those imaamate debates about takfir, kafir, shirk, etc
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:28 am to
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Have you bothered to learn anything about Islamic terrorism yet?
Plenty over the years

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Let us know when you can break down those imaamate debates about takfir, kafir, shirk, etc
What would you like to know? All you are going to prove to me is that you can read Wikipedia. Nothing you have posted suggests you have more than a secondary education, if that.
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 8:31 am
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:06 pm to
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Plenty over the years
Ah, so tell me all about how those poor sand jockeys are of no concern to us

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What would you like to know?
It was in the question genius

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All you are going to prove to me is that you can read Wikipedia
If you read wikipedia about Islamic terrorism, that would be an improvement over where you are now

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Nothing you have posted suggests you have more than a secondary education, if that
Ok. Let me know when you have something of substance to contribute to the conversation other than playground insults. How about you start with the topics I've already asked you about
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
572 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:53 pm to
I only want to pose a few questions since this has been bumped, just to gauge the accuracy of what you have stated.

Do you believe that the total population of Iran (90 million) are third-world radicalized camel jockeys, or animals as you stated, and should be annihilated, the whole lot of them?

You stated that they should rise and revolt, overthrow their oppressors. Hypothetically, do you believe that our populace could somehow coordinate a revolt and overthrow our government, if it had the support of the military?

Why do you think many Iranians over the years have emigrated to the U.S., becoming residents and citizens, living peaceful and productive lives?

And lastly, in light of the progressives and radicals in our government and populace and their crazy beliefs and lewd demonstrations, is it fair that the rest of the world judge us all by them?
This post was edited on 6/23/25 at 9:00 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:11 pm to
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Ah, so tell me all about how those poor sand jockeys are of no concern to us
They aren't
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It was in the question
You were asking about terms of Islamic interaction with non-believers

Pretty broad topic

What, specifically, would you like to be further educated on? I am glad to help,

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If you read wikipedia about Islamic terrorism, that would be
Exactly where you are

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Ok

Indeed

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Let me know when you have something of substance
You started this thread, and have offered nothing of substance, whatsoever.

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How about you start with the topics I've already asked you about
They are terms that are used for broad swaths. . .generally interchangeable with infidel

Like gentile, goy, or to a degree "heretic"

So?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:54 pm to
Iran fricked themself
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:53 pm to
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Do you believe that the total population of Iran (90 million) are third-world radicalized camel jockeys, or animals as you stated, and should be annihilated, the whole lot of them?
When did I suggest ANYTHING close to this?

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You stated that they should rise and revolt, overthrow their oppressors
Again, no. What I said is that if they don't want to suffer consequences for what their radicalized and puppet leaders are doing, then they should do something about it.

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Why do you think many Iranians over the years have emigrated to the U.S., becoming residents and citizens, living peaceful and productive lives?
I would probably try to do the same thing

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is it fair that the rest of the world judge us all by them?
I could not care less about what the world community thinks of our actions. Have you looked around the world lately?
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:59 pm to
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They aren't
Naive, stupid and false

Ever heard of 9/11? Let's get more recent - do you know who the Houthis are?

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What, specifically, would you like to be further educated on? I am glad to help
How about you start with anything you know about Islam? ANYTHING at all. Something that will actually advance the conversation beyond your stupid name calling. Something substantive that, hopefully, contributes to the topic of the current conflict. I've already explained why the bombings were absolutely justified. You haven't explained jack crap

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Exactly where you are
Tell me what I said that's not factual genius

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You started this thread, and have offered nothing of substance, whatsoever
Just because you're too halfwitted to understand it doesn't mean it wasn't stated in the OP and about a dozen times since

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generally interchangeable with infidel
Do you know who the infidels are? Do you know why it matters?

Again, let me know when you want to grow up and join the grown up conversation instead of acting like an obtuse child
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:01 pm to
It's incredible that there are still people on the board who think that the attacks were carried out because of Israel.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141795 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:04 pm to
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THE NEO CONS ARE BACK BABY



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