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re: The justification for owning tatical weaponry
Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:49 am to Humanelement
Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:49 am to Humanelement
quote:
Yes, 2ecd amendment not about hunting. It’s about the citizen of this country maintaining the right and capacity to protect themselfs from tierrany and abuse of freedoms from our own goverment.
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Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:49 am to rebeloke
Obama and Hillary had corrupted the Government Bureaucracy, and were well on their way to disassembling the Military and implementing a "civil Force equal to the Military" (Obama quote). She almost got elected. Democracy is no virtue if the people aren't virtuous; "two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner".
The above is the justification. Won't much matter; when the people go to hell they'll fight it out with machetes or spears or whatever gives them an edge.
Authoritarian governance is coming down the pipeline.
The above is the justification. Won't much matter; when the people go to hell they'll fight it out with machetes or spears or whatever gives them an edge.
Authoritarian governance is coming down the pipeline.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:49 am to Antonio Moss
quote:
quote:
capacity to protect themselfs from tierrany
Wow
Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:50 am to Nono
Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:53 am to SabiDojo
Then you should really see what this does to one.
In the middle of this build.
In the middle of this build.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:53 am to rebeloke
I have a Colt revolver that in 1942 was used by military, is that military grade?
What about police grade? Is that OK?
What about police grade? Is that OK?
Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:54 am to rebeloke
Stupid argument is still stupid.
Tactical:
characterized by skillful tactics or adroit maneuvering or procedure: tactical movements. 3. of or relating to a maneuver or plan of action designed as an expedient toward gaining a desired end or temporary advantage.
Are we only supposed to be allowed weapons by daddy government that aren't capable of achieving our desired end?
Tactical:
characterized by skillful tactics or adroit maneuvering or procedure: tactical movements. 3. of or relating to a maneuver or plan of action designed as an expedient toward gaining a desired end or temporary advantage.
Are we only supposed to be allowed weapons by daddy government that aren't capable of achieving our desired end?
Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:54 am to Kriegschwein
Omg. Is that fully semiautomatic? I bet they didn't check your ID.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:55 am to SabiDojo
quote:
WHY DO YOU NEED THIS?!?!?!
Minor correction: I need more than one of them.
And if it makes you feel better, steel core ammo does a lot less damage to a watermelon. I have some of that, so I’ll be easy on them.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:55 am to rebeloke
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Just interested in hearing the pros and cons in arguments for owning tatical weapons. All military grade weapons are up for discussion. Should private citizens be allowed to own military grade weapons?
Here's the unspoken real issue. If you let them change the 2nd amendment to restrict "tactical" weapons...then all the left has to do when in power is simply labor any gun they want banned as a "tactical" gun...and poof, it's illegal to own one
Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:55 am to troyt37
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Tactical
Is just a marketing term used to sell more gear.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:56 am to SabiDojo
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Look what a fully semiautomatic AR-15 does to a watermelon.
LINK
WHY DO YOU NEED THIS?!?!?!
Seriously, was there no one in that newsroom that knew the difference between a shotgun and a rifle?
Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:56 am to rebeloke
Why do I need a justification? Why do you care what I spend my money on?
Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:56 am to Antonio Moss
Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:58 am to tide06
quote:
Only defense a private citizen has against a government not operating within the confines of the constitution.
I don't need to defend my right to own a tactical weapon, the second amendment does so for me.
If you want to change that you should be out campaigning to change the constitution or move to another country where those rights aren't specifically protected.
While I understand the thought behind this argument, I don't think it holds much water anymore.
Even if you and all of your friends had this kind of weaponry and trained frequently, do you think you'd stand a chance against the might of the US military?
Posted on 2/25/18 at 8:58 am to rebeloke
My justification is the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America.
Nowhere in that amendment is the word "gun" used. Instead, the 2nd Amendment states, "...the right of the people to keep and bears arms, shall not be infringed."
Arms can be ANYTHING used for a defensive or offensive purpose.
Broadswords are pretty much only for collecting nowadays, but if I want to protect myself with them that is my right.
Back in the days the Constitution was written, cannons were the most devastating weapon of war. Ordinary people owned cannons and no one blinked an eye.
Nowhere in that amendment is the word "gun" used. Instead, the 2nd Amendment states, "...the right of the people to keep and bears arms, shall not be infringed."
Arms can be ANYTHING used for a defensive or offensive purpose.
Broadswords are pretty much only for collecting nowadays, but if I want to protect myself with them that is my right.
Back in the days the Constitution was written, cannons were the most devastating weapon of war. Ordinary people owned cannons and no one blinked an eye.
Posted on 2/25/18 at 9:01 am to SabiDojo
It’s actually an 1891 Mosin Nagant with a modern facelift.
And it’s a bolt.
Archangel stock, muzzle brake, Timiny trigger (with a safety), chopped barrel.
Bullets are really cheap. (7.62x54R)
And it’s a bolt.
Archangel stock, muzzle brake, Timiny trigger (with a safety), chopped barrel.
Bullets are really cheap. (7.62x54R)
This post was edited on 2/25/18 at 9:02 am
Posted on 2/25/18 at 9:02 am to Kriegschwein
It's hawt
Posted on 2/25/18 at 9:02 am to SabiDojo
edit, nevermind, apparently the sarcasm went over my head.
Sorry about that.
Sorry about that.
This post was edited on 2/25/18 at 9:04 am
Posted on 2/25/18 at 9:04 am to rebeloke
People, especially Lefties, underestimate how easy it could be for our country to have a full blown economic collapse.
A dirty bomb levels DC or NYC, an EMP takes out the Northeastern Power Grid, or we go into hyper-inflation while our credit gets downgraded and our taxes are high and our market crashes 20,000+ points. Or we simply enter an energy crisis because a nuke or two levels certain countries in the Middle East.
This country depends on trucking and railway. Better yet, it only survives and sustains itself because of trucking and railway. Those two things require gas/oil to run. And workers to run them.
If trucking and railway ever shuts down for more than just one week, our grocery stores and gas pumps will go empty/dry within days.
A week after that and half the population will be out of food.
Within days of this, gangs of people, who were previously civilized good harmless individuals, will become hungry and desperate. Even more so if they have children who are going hungry.
These use to be civilized people will take their guns and other weapons and they will begin raiding neighborhoods and breaking into homes searching for food.
This is when you’re going to wish you had some guns if you don’t.
This is not some Mad Max unrealistic bullshite. This is a very real likelihood some point in our future. All it takes is trucking unable to deliver food to grocery stores and gas to gas pumps. That’s it. Something happens there and we are under Marshal Law, and 3 weeks later the majority of the country is starving and becoming uncivilized.
A dirty bomb levels DC or NYC, an EMP takes out the Northeastern Power Grid, or we go into hyper-inflation while our credit gets downgraded and our taxes are high and our market crashes 20,000+ points. Or we simply enter an energy crisis because a nuke or two levels certain countries in the Middle East.
This country depends on trucking and railway. Better yet, it only survives and sustains itself because of trucking and railway. Those two things require gas/oil to run. And workers to run them.
If trucking and railway ever shuts down for more than just one week, our grocery stores and gas pumps will go empty/dry within days.
A week after that and half the population will be out of food.
Within days of this, gangs of people, who were previously civilized good harmless individuals, will become hungry and desperate. Even more so if they have children who are going hungry.
These use to be civilized people will take their guns and other weapons and they will begin raiding neighborhoods and breaking into homes searching for food.
This is when you’re going to wish you had some guns if you don’t.
This is not some Mad Max unrealistic bullshite. This is a very real likelihood some point in our future. All it takes is trucking unable to deliver food to grocery stores and gas to gas pumps. That’s it. Something happens there and we are under Marshal Law, and 3 weeks later the majority of the country is starving and becoming uncivilized.
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