re: The Jew argument in American politics

The problem isn't necessarily "da jews" but rather with Israel being the most important thing to political and major institutions. You have politicians rushing to give Netanyahu a handjob and go kiss the wall. It's weird. If somebody in congress steps out of line on Israel they get a ton of bad PR that is parroted and amplified online. A ton of money then gets put into replacing them. They are also willing to replace a Republican with a Democrat when it suits them which isn't great for us. Obviously, they've leaned Republican the latest election cycle but it's naive to think that will hold and it should concern most people that loyalty to a foreign nation is so important. Huge liability.

Israel also gets blamed for causing the Republican party to regress back to their NeoCon ways. Basically destroyed MAGA. Super unfortunate because I was all in.

You even have state legislatures requiring contractors agree to be loyal to Israel in order to get paid for services. There isn't a single other country that they do this for. Not even our own country, America. It's just.. odd.

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I need your answer to this question. Clearly Jewish lineage is defined matriarchally. So, obviously I am not a "Jew" as you define it. But were all the 6.5 million reportedly killed true Jews, or were they just Interlopers that served the narrative?

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I think you're intentionally being obtuse.

I said it's incredibly difficult to convert to Judaism. This implies one CAN convert.

I said you were a non-ethnic Jew. This implies you can practice the religion without a lineage tie.

To state it very clearly there is an ethnic and religious component to Judaism.

One can be ethnically Jewish, but not practice Judaism

One can practice Judaism, but not be ethnically Jewish

One can be ethnically Jewish, and practice Judaism.

And your claim about Ashkenazi Jews is uninteresting to me. Ashkenazis claim to have descended from Israelites, so they themselves claim to be ethnically Jewish. And as far as I have seen, there is no evidence that shows they didn't descend from Israelites. Whether they are or are not is not particularly relevant, because they claim to be and people consider them to be.

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Your argument doesn't address any of the points in the quoted text. Don't avoid it. Embrace it and engage in valuable discourse.

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Perhaps lay out what I didn't address because I think I clarified what you are confused on and directly addressed your Holocaust question by identifying that Ashkenazi Jews are ethnically Jewish, despite what you are saying here.

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You said there aren't many races of Jews that practice Judaism.

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This survey identified that 3% of practicing Jews in America are not of Jewish origins. I stand by what I said. Just because you were a convert does not mean conversion is common.

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It is not incredibly difficult to convert. I have been through it myself.

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You never answered my question about learning of the 12 Tribes of Israel in Yeshiva. And I find it odd that you learned that sin is a Christian concept there

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My holocaust argument was meant to highlight this, but you instead assumed Ashkenazi instead of other converts who were also killed in the Holocaust who DIDN'T have the ethnic ties.You devalue converts yet you accept them when their numbers (6.5 million) aid the narrative.

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I have no idea the number of people killed in the Holocaust. As I understand it there was a large push by the Nazis to systemically seperate, remove, and the exterminate ethnic Jews from society (Jews were identified by looks, a genetic trait). If you have numbers on ethnic vs non-ethnic Jews killed during WWII, I'd like to see them.

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Given that the vast majority of ethnic Jews are not religious, I would certainly say that their race is the primary defining characteristic

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Ethnicity =/= race.

Germans and Slavs are white, yet they are different ethnicities.

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You devalue converts yet you accept them when their numbers (6.5 million) aid the narrative

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From everyone I speak to about this topic, who is from and still live in eastern Europe, this number pisses them off. This 6.5 million includes their own number who have been lumped in with the Jewish casualties with nothing said about the non-Jewish.

The Jews get uncomfortable when tribes that outnumber them get unified, so they try and keep disunity thriving.

Non-Jews have deployed the same strategy so I don’t think it’s all that unique to Jews.


It’s kinda hard to blame them because historically not so nice things happened to them when the neighbors got united.

They do wind up pissing off people when they go too far like with their ADL attack dog.

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he was a pacifist who disliked greed yet made a fortune during the war

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Dont act like he had an option, Roosevelt would have absolutely seized Ford during WW2 if it came down to it.

This is the first time I've seen anyone bring up Desantis since 2024. What are you dreaming up in your head?

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while the other had the people’s sins symbolically confessed over it and was then sent alive into the wilderness, carrying those sins away

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And guess who consumed those sins in the form of a goat? I'll give you two guesses