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Posted on 6/13/20 at 8:13 pm to TrueTiger
quote:In fact, one lawyer claimed "carotid compression" was still being taught to the MPD as acceptable restraint protocol. As I said at the time, if it was being taught, Minneapolis should have voluntarily offered the Floyd's a ginormous check and gotten some PR out of it. Because they are going to be writing a large check one way or another.
it seems the police don't either
Posted on 6/13/20 at 8:13 pm to OMLandshark
Harris is evidence of just how negative the label of atheist is in our society. If he had just an indifferent, vaguely deistic take he woukd be nearly universally regarded as a giant of intellectual and political discourse because the dude is spot fricking on 90% of the time and calls out everyone.
But because he’s an outspoken atheist, he’s a niche Hitchens-lite author/intellectual who is either unknown or immediately dismissed by a majority of the population.
It’s a sad indictment of how our society judges the merit of ideas.
But because he’s an outspoken atheist, he’s a niche Hitchens-lite author/intellectual who is either unknown or immediately dismissed by a majority of the population.
It’s a sad indictment of how our society judges the merit of ideas.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 8:16 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:Well-put. Man I miss Chris Hitchens.
he’s a niche Hitchens-lite author/intellectual
Posted on 6/13/20 at 8:20 pm to NC_Tigah
I wish Hitchens were still alive just too see how his manner of blunt, brutally honest discourse would be received in the current political climate. He gave zero fricks about getting up in front of a room full of Muslims in a Muslim ruled country and telling them their theology was evil. He would absolutely destroy the snowflake “IM OFFENDED” mindset.
I’d pay good money to see one of these frickers try and call him a racist to his face for speaking truth
I’d pay good money to see one of these frickers try and call him a racist to his face for speaking truth
Posted on 6/13/20 at 8:35 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:Breitbart had some of that too. But Hitchens was on a different William F. Buckley level.
He would absolutely destroy the snowflake “IM OFFENDED” mindset.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:10 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
if it was being taught,
then that would mean the police were following proper protocol,
which could lead to them being exonerated
Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:16 pm to TrueTiger
quote:
then that would mean the police were following proper protocol,
which could lead to them being exonerated
Good point.
No intent to kill = no Murder 2.
And if they were trained to do that it's a lot harder to argue gross negligence.
And I guarantee XiNN and MSNPC won't warn the general public in advance or lay out those facts.
They already bullied the witness who said Chauvin and Floyd were beefing and got him to recant. Which would have boosted the case for Murder 2, but undermined the ability to use the case to stoke division.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:44 pm to TrueTiger
I listen to him on Buddhist philosophy and mediation. But why the hell is he bent out of shape with Trump having a few troops guarding the White House?
Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:58 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
Harris is evidence of just how negative the label of atheist is in our society. If he had just an indifferent, vaguely deistic take he woukd be nearly universally regarded as a giant of intellectual and political discourse because the dude is spot fricking on 90% of the time and calls out everyone.
But because he’s an outspoken atheist, he’s a niche Hitchens-lite author/intellectual who is either unknown or immediately dismissed by a majority of the population.
It’s a sad indictment of how our society judges the merit of ideas.
There’s a lot of truth in this statement, but I do have one bone to pick. Disclaimer, I’m a conservative Catholic, so I disagree with Harris on many political and most religious issues. But I still listen to him because he’s an intellectual giant, incredibly articulate, rational on most issues, and comes at things from an angle that the average person wouldn’t even think to consider.
But here’s the bone: he’s much less reasonable on religious issues than he is on political or cultural issues. He doesn’t go full “belief in God is just as rational as belief in the Easter Bunny” mode as some of the more annoying atheists do, but he struggles critiquing Christianity without overly appealing to the Old Testament (perhaps because he’s Jewish?) and has a tendency to jump down rabbit holes that are wholly unnecessary. Although he does it so fashionably I still can’t help but listen to what he has to say even if the topic is religious in nature
This post was edited on 6/13/20 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:02 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
I wish Hitchens were still alive just too see how his manner of blunt, brutally honest discourse would be received in the current political climate. He gave zero fricks about getting up in front of a room full of Muslims in a Muslim ruled country and telling them their theology was evil. He would absolutely destroy the snowflake “IM OFFENDED” mindset. I’d pay good money to see one of these frickers try and call him a racist to his face for speaking truth
Loved Hitchens, too. Harris and Hitchens make Dennett and Dawkins look like idiots by comparison.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:10 pm to Roger Klarvin
You're my spirit animal.
Posted on 6/13/20 at 11:21 pm to RedStickBR
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But here’s the bone: he’s much less reasonable on religious issues than he is on political or cultural issues.
How so?
Posted on 6/14/20 at 6:13 pm to OMLandshark
Just wrapped it up. That could be the most important podcast I’ve ever heard. If America falls and we are Weimar Germany, future historians will take note of that podcast as well as Chapelle’s improvised standup. Sam Harris should word for word testify before Congress with this message.
This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 6:14 pm
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