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re: The future of the Republican Party is educated black voters
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:43 am to mizzoukills
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:43 am to mizzoukills
We need more Allen West's out there.
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:50 am to Zach
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I used to think like you and then I got everything explained to me by a black professor (a friend, not my teacher). The issue we're missing is the private sector economy vs. the public sector economy. The majority of whites are employed in the private sector...banks, car dealerships, investment firms, etc. The majority of blacks are employed in the public sector ... teachers, city hall, the DMV, etc. Expansive govt = more jobs for blacks. The Dems are the party of expansive govt. So, you see it's not just blacks on welfare that are voting in their own interests.
Great point. The problem I find in the Private sector hiring of blacks isn't the hiring, its the firing, which leads to less hiring..The Gov't jobs are stable, and you don't have the pressure to perform.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:51 am to CamdenTiger
Plus there is a lot of cronyism going on in the public sector, we all know this.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:25 am to mizzoukills
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Well, black Americans have proven that they'll vote for the black candidate no matter what he stands for. They will always vote for the black man/woman.
Stopped reading right here.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:33 am to mizzoukills
Scott/Love 2020 - the meltdown on the left would be so epic, there would be songs written.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:34 am to trackfan
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Stopped reading right here
why?
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:38 am to marchballer
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Jason Riley's
Baller - why doesn't THAT motherf*cker stand for national office? He's almost the black Mark Levin.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 11:39 am
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:42 am to marchballer
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marchballer
Upvote for you, sir.
And post more often
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:54 am to marchballer
quote:SpidermanTUba will be along shortly to call you an Uncle Tom, house n***er, ect. ect.
marchballer
He's the resident lib slave hunter and he hates it when one escapes the Dem plantation. Prepare your anus.
BTW, great post. Appreciate your perspective, please stick around.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:57 am to CamdenTiger
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Great point. The problem I find in the Private sector hiring of blacks isn't the hiring, its the firing, which leads to less hiring..The Gov't jobs are stable, and you don't have the pressure to perform.
Good point. I remember ULL hired their first black head FB coach and he set a record for most losses. They fired him after he kept going 1-11. He sued for racial discrimination.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:48 pm to Zach
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I remember ULL hired their first black head FB coach and he set a record for most losses. They fired him after he kept going 1-11. He sued for racial discrimination.
ugh...
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:38 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Rex,SpidermanTUba, TT9, Draconian Sanctions, Vegas Cornhole, Decatur will do everything in their evil power to keep black people on the plantation.
They hate black people so much
This is the truth.
I'm actually worried about the racism we will see if the black population started being even a 25/75 split dem/repub
It will be worse than we've seen in 50 years.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:43 pm to moneyg
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I'm actually worried about the racism we will see if the black population started being even a 25/75 split dem/repub
Anything above 20% black vote for the Republican party - pretty much dooms the Democrat party for a generation. That would be 40+ state wins in Presidential elections. The Democrat party has already lost the white vote in all but about 20 metropolitan areas and a couple of traditionally liberal small states. Republicans are already reasonably competitive in the Latino vote and that is going to get better, IMHO, over the next 12 to 16 years.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:44 pm to mizzoukills
Identity politics...yea!
I'll be happy with the best candidate regardless of color. If blacks and or latinos want to live in the past and live by racial motivation, I say we let them.
We are so far away from MLK's dream it's staggering. shite like this moves us farther and farther away.
I'll be happy with the best candidate regardless of color. If blacks and or latinos want to live in the past and live by racial motivation, I say we let them.
We are so far away from MLK's dream it's staggering. shite like this moves us farther and farther away.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 1:54 pm to uway
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Black people are like everyone else in that they won't vote for people they believe hate them. They believe Republicans are racist.
We have to convince them we are not. How can we do that? By not being racist, for one.
Also, by actually caring about and talking about issues that matter to them. You can't fake it, and you can't just wish them into caring about the same issues you are about.
You hit it on the nail.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:01 pm to marchballer
My only objection is that the conservative base needs to listen to black people.
I agree with every thing you have said, but this isn't a one sided affair were the "opposing" side makes generalizations and observations from a far. They need to take steps, like Rand Paul has done, to go to communities, and hear what the people have to say, show that they care, and offer solutions that will help the community.
It's very possible. But we cannot have politicians that are scared of scaring off their main voting bloc.
I agree with every thing you have said, but this isn't a one sided affair were the "opposing" side makes generalizations and observations from a far. They need to take steps, like Rand Paul has done, to go to communities, and hear what the people have to say, show that they care, and offer solutions that will help the community.
It's very possible. But we cannot have politicians that are scared of scaring off their main voting bloc.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:01 pm to marchballer
My only objection is that the conservative base needs to listen to black people.
I agree with every thing you have said, but this isn't a one sided affair were the "opposing" side makes generalizations and observations from a far. They need to take steps, like Rand Paul has done, to go to communities, and hear what the people have to say, show that they care, and offer solutions that will help the community.
It's very possible. But we cannot have politicians that are scared of scaring off their main voting bloc.
I agree with every thing you have said, but this isn't a one sided affair were the "opposing" side makes generalizations and observations from a far. They need to take steps, like Rand Paul has done, to go to communities, and hear what the people have to say, show that they care, and offer solutions that will help the community.
It's very possible. But we cannot have politicians that are scared of scaring off their main voting bloc.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:12 pm to StrongSafety
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My only objection is that the conservative base needs to listen to black people.
I understand the sentiment, but it is grounded in emotion and retains the whole "identify" politics crap in the first place.
Solutions for Americans should work for everyone. Once you start taking from one to give to another - it is another form of class warfare - it also allows for the heretofore extremely efficient Democrat vote herding techniques. While it has worked for them since at least FDR and even before, it may have run out of steam.
The problem with the Republican message (I'm not defending their practice of it, as a party, merely the message) precisely IS color-blind - no way to herd or dogwhistle people on race.
Republicans hear "Cop shoots unarmed teen" - leaving the race out - the analysis goes, "Cop has some 'splainin' to do." "Well, he did rob a store." Typical R: "Armed?" - "No, strongarm." R: "But he had to shoot him?" - "The kid is a giant, he tuned up the cop while he was still in the cruiser, went for his gun." - R: "So he shot him in the back?" - "Well - not exactly..." (and so on until the evidence is brought out in the open to be weighed and evaluated...... many issues are weighed and debated just like this.)
Democrat: "White cop shoots unarmed black teen" /analysis
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:12 pm to StrongSafety
There isnt a community that wants to be "talked down" to, especially by people that aren't apart of it or make an effort to distance themselves from it. And with this nation's history, we sadly have to just suspect why some people might be skeptical of the "tough love." Just being honest.
There are more than enough rational black folks out there that see that dems haven't held their end of the bargain. What they need to switch sides is a candidate that caters to them and makes them feel apart of the party. Sadly, most candidates have done the exact opposite in trying to distance themselves from the base. What are the reasons?
The reasons you usually hear here are because black people want things or handouts. I don't think we are that simple-minded. What this board fails to do, time and time again, is examine why they feel alienated. Why is it that poor whites continually vote against their own interests, which would be the democratic plantation?
I've alluded to this before, but I do believe parts of it may have a "white flight" component to it. These republicans need to unify their voters into one group. They fear scaring off their main bloc (white Christians) by appealing to other demographics.
Now that may just be a component of it, but In my opinion, that speaks to an issue that white conservatives must talk about and confront amongst themselves.
Inviting other blocs into your party doesn't necessarily require total assimilation into their ways, it may require more acceptance of other people and their cultures and perspectives. Dems have done a better job of that. The republicans can do that, but they need to have a hard talk with their white voters.
There are more than enough rational black folks out there that see that dems haven't held their end of the bargain. What they need to switch sides is a candidate that caters to them and makes them feel apart of the party. Sadly, most candidates have done the exact opposite in trying to distance themselves from the base. What are the reasons?
The reasons you usually hear here are because black people want things or handouts. I don't think we are that simple-minded. What this board fails to do, time and time again, is examine why they feel alienated. Why is it that poor whites continually vote against their own interests, which would be the democratic plantation?
I've alluded to this before, but I do believe parts of it may have a "white flight" component to it. These republicans need to unify their voters into one group. They fear scaring off their main bloc (white Christians) by appealing to other demographics.
Now that may just be a component of it, but In my opinion, that speaks to an issue that white conservatives must talk about and confront amongst themselves.
Inviting other blocs into your party doesn't necessarily require total assimilation into their ways, it may require more acceptance of other people and their cultures and perspectives. Dems have done a better job of that. The republicans can do that, but they need to have a hard talk with their white voters.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 2:16 pm to mizzoukills
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However, it's possible to turn black liberals into black conservatives because a large percentage of black voters are already conservatively minded people...they just don't realize it yet.
I teach some classes to grown folks. Some of them black and staunch Democrats. After discussing the why, hows and what ifs, they all realized that they are Republican leaning. It shocked almost all of them. They go through life not knowing what they are voting for.
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