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The Executive needs a way to limit Congressional terms.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 5/30/26 at 3:06 pm
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Franklin D. Roosevelt served four terms as President of the United States. He was elected to office in 1932, 1936, 1940, and 1944.
He is the only U.S. president in history to serve more than two terms. Shortly after his death during his fourth term in 1945, the 22nd Amendment was ratified, legally limiting future presidents to two terms.
Balance of powers.
Convention of states.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 3:08 pm to LSUbest
It is absolutely crazy the executive is limited but the legislative and judicial branches aren’t. They all need term limits.
This post was edited on 5/30/26 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 5/30/26 at 3:10 pm to DeBoar
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It is absolutely crazy the executive is limited but the legislative and judicial branches aren’t.
They check the executive often, but the executive only has a veto which can be overridden.
It's not balanced power.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 3:12 pm to DeBoar
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It is absolutely crazy the executive is limited but the legislative and judicial branches aren’t. They all need term limits.
They should all be held to the same standards with the possible exception of the SCOTUS where rule of law, knowledge and wisdom should be valued above petty politics.
Eight years, twelve years, whatever for POTUS and Congress ... but make it the same.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 3:21 pm to LSUbest
There are term limits now.
They are called elections.
Downvote away, but I’m not wrong.
They are called elections.
Downvote away, but I’m not wrong.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 3:22 pm to scrooster
The reality is that the House of Representatives was intended to be up for an actual vote every two years and the states were going to pick two senators every six years
That gives the people will say in the presidency and the house and the state of say in the Senate
The judiciary was meant to be impartial
That gives the people will say in the presidency and the house and the state of say in the Senate
The judiciary was meant to be impartial
Posted on 5/30/26 at 3:24 pm to dafif
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The judiciary was meant to be impartial
This is our founding fathers' "oh you sweet summer child" moment.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 3:47 pm to LSUbest
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They check the executive often, but the executive only has a veto which can be overridden.
It's not balanced power.
This is fuzzy logic. The executive has all kinds of power, including issuing executive orders, which we’ve seen too much of in the last 18 years. We do not have a problem with a too weak president. Our problem with the balance of power is that the executive is too strong.
I think shorter terms for congressmen is a great idea, but I think we should arrive at that by being conscientious voters and throwing the incumbents out after a six or ten years. But term limits or not, that doesn’t change the balance of power.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 4:21 pm to Penrod
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we should arrive at that by being conscientious voters
As we have seen, this does not work without some sort of guarantee wrt the knowledge, integrity, and morality of the voter.
Our forefathers had no concept (or at least a long list of examples) of a huge proportion of incompetent people be allowed to vote where they are supported exclusively by the people they elect using the $$ of the responsible citizens. The ONLY way such a system should be allowed would be to give any able bodied person a limited time to "stay on the dole" and stile exercise their voting privilege. Anyone purposefully 'living off the state' should NOT be allowed to vote = period.
We have the best example in front of us right now - the Democrats are out of ideas and scruples = they know they cannot win an election with voters who are required to be self-sufficient and law-abiding.
The Dems are showing they have given up on earning votes from an informed population of self-sufficient citizens. They have spent the last 2 decades devoted entire to replacing the normal American Voter with hired hands who can be used to support any 'policy' they create as long as it doesn't interfere with their welfare payments and get out of jail free cards.
There is no other explanation for the actions of the Democrat party for the past decade - other than "hate Trump."
Our forefathers would kick our asses for allowing this atrocity to continue.
Ben Franklin was right = our constitution will not work for anything other than a moral and responsible population.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 4:27 pm to LSUbest
Meh.... think about the opposite of that.
If Trump could dictate congressional term limits, then the next Marxist Dem president could lengthen term limits when it suited them.
The solution to this topic isn't the responsibility of the Executive Branch, it's the responsibility of "we the people ".
We the people are responsible for electing our congressional representation to whom have the constitutional authority to change term limits.
We need to elect better congressional representation. Folks don't lime to hear this, but it's the simple truth.
If Trump could dictate congressional term limits, then the next Marxist Dem president could lengthen term limits when it suited them.
The solution to this topic isn't the responsibility of the Executive Branch, it's the responsibility of "we the people ".
We the people are responsible for electing our congressional representation to whom have the constitutional authority to change term limits.
We need to elect better congressional representation. Folks don't lime to hear this, but it's the simple truth.
This post was edited on 5/30/26 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 5/30/26 at 4:30 pm to dafif
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The reality is that the House of Representatives was intended to be up for an actual vote every two years and the states were going to pick two senators every six years
That gives the people will say in the presidency and the house and the state of say in the Senate
The judiciary was meant to be impartial
Yep
The Seventeenth Amendment
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Historical Context and Impact Prior to 1913, Article I, Section 3 of the Constitution designated state legislatures as the selecting body, a design intended to protect state interests within the federal government. The shift to direct election was a major goal of the Progressive Era, driven by public dissatisfaction with "smoky backroom" deals and the inability of some state legislatures to agree on candidates. While supporters argue it democratized the Senate and increased transparency, some modern critics contend it undermined state sovereignty and increased the influence of special interest groups in federal elections.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 4:46 pm to Coastal Tiger
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There are term limits now. They are called elections. Downvote away, but I’m not wrong.
You are wrong
Posted on 5/30/26 at 4:53 pm to Coastal Tiger
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There are term limits now.
They are called elections.
So by that logic, if Trump can win another election he can serve another term.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 4:54 pm to Coastal Tiger
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There are term limits now. They are called elections. Downvote away, but I’m not wrong.
You are wrong, the fact there’s no hard limits restricts a lot of people ever having a chance.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 4:58 pm to LSUbest
Yeah, it will require an amendment to the constitution.
Also, user Wednesday made a good point awhile back. We need to have limits for congressional staff members as well. People make careers out of telling what these congresspeople to do. They're just as bad, or worse.
Also, user Wednesday made a good point awhile back. We need to have limits for congressional staff members as well. People make careers out of telling what these congresspeople to do. They're just as bad, or worse.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 5:00 pm to Coastal Tiger
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There are term limits now.
They are called elections.
Downvote away, but I’m not wrong.
You're a fricking idiot.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 5:00 pm to LSUbest
This is one topic where all Americans can (or should) find 100% unity.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 5:23 pm to LSUbest
A State needs to vote on an amendment for term limits and let the supreme court review it again. Back when Arkansas did this, Thomas was a dissenter, stating States had the right to determine limits if they so voted.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 5:26 pm to Gee Grenouille
Nobody is arguing that, we are saying there needs to be term limits while recognizing Congress will never do it. The system is a joke.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 5:30 pm to Coastal Tiger
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Downvote away, but I’m not wrong.
One legal; the other illegal.
You're not just wrong.
You're FFuucking stupid, too.
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