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re: The elephant in the room regarding boasberg/venezuelan gangs.

Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:04 pm to
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What is the specific conflict alleged here?



LINK

The judge's daughter is an advocate for these exact kind of groups. But you knew that, didn't you Balph?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466921 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:07 pm to
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The judge's daughter is an advocate for these exact kind of groups.

Almost assuredly not a conflict, but, more importantly, not one the judge would have to do on his own.

28 U.S. Code § 455

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(a)Any justice, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned.
(b)He shall also disqualify himself in the following circumstances:
(1)Where he has a personal bias or prejudice concerning a party, or personal knowledge of disputed evidentiary facts concerning the proceeding;
(2)Where in private practice he served as lawyer in the matter in controversy, or a lawyer with whom he previously practiced law served during such association as a lawyer concerning the matter, or the judge or such lawyer has been a material witness concerning it;
(3)Where he has served in governmental employment and in such capacity participated as counsel, adviser or material witness concerning the proceeding or expressed an opinion concerning the merits of the particular case in controversy;
(4)He knows that he, individually or as a fiduciary, or his spouse or minor child residing in his household, has a financial interest in the subject matter in controversy or in a party to the proceeding, or any other interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding;
(5)He or his spouse, or a person within the third degree of relationship to either of them, or the spouse of such a person:
(i)Is a party to the proceeding, or an officer, director, or trustee of a party;
(ii)Is acting as a lawyer in the proceeding;
(iii)Is known by the judge to have an interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding;
(iv)Is to the judge’s knowledge likely to be a material witness in the proceeding.



Your closest shot would be (b)(5), but his daughter isn't a part of the groups that are parties to the litigation, so that dog won't hunt. That would remove her from having an interest in the litigation or being associated with a party/being a potential witness in the litigation.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 1:08 pm
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32424 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:10 pm to
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analysis.


is that you what truly think you provide here?

you and hank really are this meme

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466921 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:12 pm to
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is that you what truly think you provide here?

I've been giving political analysis on here for going on 20 years now
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:12 pm to
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Almost assuredly not a conflict,


Very first sentence, Balph.

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(a)Any justice, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned.


Are you now going to argue that it is not reasonable to question his impartiality, upon the knowledge that his daughter works for a group that advocates for just such illegals? I question not only his impartiality, but now too his ethics!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466921 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:16 pm to
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Are you now going to argue that it is not reasonable to question his impartiality, upon the knowledge that his daughter works for a group that advocates for just such illegals? I

That's a retarded argument

Stretch Armstrong level reaching involved in that "logic"
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:26 pm to
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That's a retarded argument

Stretch Armstrong level reaching involved in that "logic"


Only to people like you, Balph. If the judge's daughter is an advocate for the very people Trump is deporting, the judge issuing an injunction on the deportation is the definition of a conflict of interest. You would recognize this immediately if you weren't a despicable leftist.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8528 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:27 pm to
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Constitutional authority when justifying actions with "national security".


Is it within the President's Constitutional authority to designate a gang as a terrorist organization?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466921 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:29 pm to
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. If the judge's daughter is an advocate for the very people Trump is deporting, the judge issuing an injunction on the deportation is the definition of a conflict of interest.

She would need to be directly associated in some way with a party to the litigation where the injunction was issued.

Just generally working in the field? Not close to a conflict.

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if you weren't a despicable leftist.

Even more retarded than the faulty logic being exposed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466921 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:30 pm to
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Is it within the President's Constitutional authority to designate a gang as a terrorist organization?

That is a question being litigated.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46225 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:32 pm to
The elephant in the room is that some unelected DC judge, who is a dem appointee and total lackey, gets to unilaterally undo presidential actions that are constitutionally granted to the executive, and tie that up in court indefinitely.

Dems, who can't stomach DOGE staff merely identifying potential waste and corruption in government, sure are fighting like hell to keep unelected political appointees acting as DeFacto national security czars who can lawfare everything the commander in chief does.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57012 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:33 pm to
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Can you state where in our constitution, the judiciary is the determiner of national security status?

Marbury v. Madison


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a landmark Supreme Court case that established the principle of judicial review, allowing courts to invalidate laws that conflict with the Constitution.


And what about Trump's order was unconstitutional?
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8528 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:34 pm to
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That is a question being litigated.


This is amazing to me and should be to you as well, If the President doesn't have that authority, then who does? Just in case another sect of the Muslims want to set up shop here are start laying IED's all over the place.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466921 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:35 pm to
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And what about Trump's order was unconstitutional?

That's one of the discussions going on in the current litigation.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466921 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:36 pm to
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If the President doesn't have that authority, then who does?

If the President is improperly labeling people/groups "terrorists", outside of the specific authority granted to him by Congress, then nobody has that authority.

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Just in case another sect of the Muslims want to set up shop here are start laying IED's all over the place.

You'd have a much easier argument labeling them terrorists.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8528 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:41 pm to
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You'd have a much easier argument labeling them terrorists.


So strong arm terrorizing apartment complexes doesn't fall under this category? I would think people would just say, "thank you Mr. President for removing such a bad element from our society" and just move along. But for some reason, the Democrats WANT that element to remain. Ah yes, votes.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8528 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:43 pm to
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If the President is improperly labeling people/groups "terrorists",


Mind you, they are here ILLEGALLY!! They should not be afforded the PROTECTION of the very laws they broke to get here.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
8248 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:51 pm to
Fair question. I think the DOJ has been slow to react to what they know is going to happen. They need to be more aggressive/pro active with these shitty judges.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46225 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:52 pm to
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Alien Enemies act is only for Wartime, so that is not the law on the side of DJT and the DOJ


No its not. How many times must we go through this?
Posted by Bryno1960
Off River Road
Member since Aug 2013
3342 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 1:59 pm to
I asked this question yesterday and will ask again of all those who are defending the actions by both the ACLU and Boesberg. Would you welcome them into your neighborhoods? I have to question the morals and values of anyone who would be against the deportation of violent, criminal illegal aliens. It seems as though they have more rights than true American citizens.
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