re: The Decline of Coal

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So tell us what happens when Joe bans fracking.

Where are you going to get all of your cheap natural gas?

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joe is not going to ban fracking... he is going to limit "new" additional fracking... the fracking in place will continue.

But fracking sucks. Ask people that live around where it happens. Nothing like having flammable water come out of your taps.

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and that is bad, for them... but they will move past it as they implement solar increasingly... the threat is that they pass us up so far in solar that we can't compete.

GM just changed its marketing, logo and focus onto electric vehicles. Change can't be stopped at a certain point... and we're past that point.

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LOL

The whole green energy shite is a lie, or about 95% a lie. Even man boobs Michael Moore figured it out.

The whole carbon shite is scam. There is pollution of course, but carbon isn't one of them. What happened is over 20-30 years things like coal technology was able to reduce the amounts of real pollution down to almost nothing. Although, places like China are not even interested in these restrictions.

The scam had to move to carbon.

Don't get me wrong, there is things with coal that must be contained like coal ash. But 99% of this green energy shite is scam especially with present battery tech.

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Liberal wet dreams.

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... from the fine folks at General Motors.

ABC News: New campaign, and logo, for GM in a bid to electrify image

General Motors is changing its corporate logo and launching an electric vehicle marketing campaign to reshape its image as clean vehicle company, rather than a builder of gas-powered pickups and SUVs

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There was the development of a carbon-capture coal power plant in Mississippi called the Kemper Project.

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That's the new scam... carbon is pollution. Everything on this planet will eventually burn because it has a molten core.

There are underground coal fires that go on for 1,000s of years.

All coal, oil, trees, natural gas, etc. will one day burn.

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If someone can afford a $700,000 house, they can afford $25,000-$30,000 in solar tiles.

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There have been major pursuits to make coal more viable for the future. There was the development of a carbon-capture coal power plant in Mississippi called the Kemper Project. Unfortunately, that has been canceled due to vast increasing costs.

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yeah... the cost-effectiveness just isn't there, ultimately, no matter what they try... and it's awful and filthy and creates so many other problems, especially for the people who work to extract it, health-wise... it's just not worth it.

We have a lot of natural gas. It doesn't need to come from fracking... it's almost really just a by-product of that process being used to extract oil and shale, right? (I'm not in the field... I have friends who are Chemical Engineers working in it or geologists working in research and discovery)

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Solar has it's advantages and disadvantages. The tech is moving so fast, now, that plants from even 5 years ago are using obsolete tech.

Personally, I'd love to see regulations that require houses of certain square footage to have solar. If someone can afford a $700,000 house, they can afford $25,000-$30,000 in solar tiles.

I know it's not a popular opinion, but if coal is being replaced by solar (which is why california is having massive brown-outs), they need to figure out the best way to take pressure off the grid.

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For large energy production with solar or wind in most places in the world doesn't make sense as its not viable. Than once you put in that you have to support the whole grid which in the United States expands large areas.... its an impossibility.

The honest green people will admit this, the others are just trying to make an easy buck.

Don't get me wrong we use solar but not because its viable large scale, for independence.... its very costly.

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carbon capture is seeing better results with a zero-emissions gas plant being in development and showing promise.

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This is the way the industry is going.

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California has humongous amounts of solar power. So much; in fact, that they have too much of it.

Solar is not the solution. Better batteries is. Until we can store energy better, solar will continue to have large problems.

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Unless they get batteries which are cost effective and last 30 years, they'll tap out real quick like CA.

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You do realize all of the fossil fuels needed to create/run your solar power universe is probably more harmful than a nuclear plant.

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Why can't they be created with the existing nuclear power plants supplying the energy?