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re: The Death Penalty is WAY too lenient

Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61283 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:04 pm to
One gentleman who was recently paroled after serving 24 years shared his story with me. He was sent to a boy’s home when he was 12 or 14 for trying to fight his dad while the dad was beating up the guy’s mom. While he was at the boys home, he was gang raped by the older boys there.

Naturally, he was filled with rage after that. He wanted to hurt other the people the like he was hurt while in state custody. He didn’t want to rape anyone, but he wanted them to be punished. He ended up committing petty crimes and ultimately committed an armed robbery, which landed him that long sentence.

When he got out, he got a job and received his first paycheck on a prepaid debit card. He brought it to me and asked me how the money comes out of the card. He had been locked up for 24 years and no one thought to teach him anything about the modern world. Forget him trying to figure out how to work a smartphone.

I’m sure it super easy to shite on anonymous criminals and assume that all of them savagely murdered little kids from the comfort of your computer chairs, but that’s not the case.

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61283 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:05 pm to
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I guess you just have a little more trust in the government than I do.
these posters are cheering on the government executing its citizens. It’s insane.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:08 pm to
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It’s insane.


It's not.

These people lack any sort of integrity.

They'd gladly install an authoritarian government if said authoritarian agreed with all of their political stances.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:15 pm to
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I’m sure it super easy to shite on anonymous criminals and assume that all of them savagely murdered little kids from the comfort of your computer chairs, but that’s not the case.


Well golly-gee-fking-whiz, I mean, your anecdotal, unverifiable story of this ONE dude CERTAINLY makes me rethink my lying eyes and personal life experience....

You are acting like what you are: A soft, overly emotional, logic-rejecting woman.

You and those like you should NEVER be allowed to mold the minds of children.

You are the disease, not the cure.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:16 pm to
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They'd gladly install an authoritarian government


You Liberal women beat us to that by allowing Biden and the Democrats to take control....
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9349 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:24 pm to
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That probably made more sense in your head.


What are the left's most common arguments against the 2nd amendment?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:28 pm to
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What are the left's most common arguments against the 2nd amendment?


Crackers bad, thugs good is the one that seems to be most prevalent.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79416 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:32 pm to
I a pro-death penalty.

especially in cases like this with video evidence.

I do think it’s hilarious how conservatives pretend they support the constitution but like not the 8th amendment.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:35 pm to
You know the government doesn't unilaterally convict and sentence these people, correct?
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:35 pm to
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I’m sure it super easy to shite on anonymous criminals and assume that all of them savagely murdered little kids from the comfort of your computer chairs, but that’s not the case.
The Right-m0st third of the political spectrum is utterly convinced that the 12-year-old kid from you anecdote is a complete moral negative for the remainder of his life, because he was not unable to rise above the horrible things that happened to him.

Of course, the Left-most third of the spectrum is utterly convinced that it is impossible for him to EVER rise above those events and that he should forever be forgiven for all transgressions against society.

Both of them make the 1/3 in the middle want to smash their skulls against a wall.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9349 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:36 pm to
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Crackers bad, thugs good is the one that seems to be most prevalent.


that was probably funnier in your head

I was trying to make my comment make more sense but we dont have to play today
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:37 pm to
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I’m sure it super easy to shite on anonymous criminals and assume that all of them savagely murdered little kids from the comfort of your computer chairs, but that’s not the case.


Is anyone advocating for the death penalty for that "12 or 14" year old kid?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:45 pm to
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Both of them make the 1/3 in the middle want to smash their skulls against a wall.


Ah yes, the pretend Centrist AggieHanktonius.....
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:07 pm to
Victims‘ families in these cases should have the option of requesting that the murderer be sentenced to be locked in a warehouse with the victim’s family and friends for a few hours and let them do whatever they want to the murderer.
Posted by Billions
Member since Oct 2023
270 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:14 pm to
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these posters are cheering on the government executing its citizens. It’s insane.

I oppose the death penalty thank you very much.
Posted by Billions
Member since Oct 2023
270 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:19 pm to
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You know the government doesn't unilaterally convict and sentence these people, correct?

While this is obviously true, the blunt reality is that governments generally suck because they cater to the whims of an emotional population. A population that also makes up juries.

Now, jury trials, to be sure, are the best of the options. That said, we also have to just be candid and recognize that juries are not exactly paragons of perfection. We know from common sense and repeated studies that if you have to be on trial for multiple murder, you'd probably rather be.....

A pretty woman instead of a man
An pleasantly attractive person over someone who is hidious
Non-threatening in appearance vs 6'6" 290 with tattoos on your face.

And so on. It would be nice if juries didn't let such things sway them, but I don't have any solution for it and they aren't gonna stop it.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35492 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:21 pm to
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You have so much faith in the government.

Couldn't be me.


What does this have to do with my post?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35492 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:32 pm to
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does brutalizing someone else resurrect the deceased?


Warehousing them outside of society keeps them from doing it to someone else.

We need to step outside the tit-for-tat argument and move towards a prison-as-segregation model.

There is a certain percentage of the population that is not fit to live among civilized humans. The issue is figuring out who they are. However, when they reveal themselves, they must be sectioned off from law-abiding citizens, potentially forever.

I am mostly talking about violent criminals, including robberies involving weapons. If you choose to attack another human with a weapon, then you forfeit your freedom.
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26451 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:34 pm to
Public hanging 10 days after conviction colonial style would seem to work. There is not a shadow of a doubt that these animals murdered with a sense of depravity.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35492 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:42 pm to
What percentage of rape victims don't turn into career criminals? 99.99999 percent?

There's lots of evil in the world. Lots of people are wronged, many way worse than your totally real anecdotal story. Nearly all of them do not turn into criminals.
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