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The Deadliest School Shootings in US History
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:09 pm
The deadliest high school/elementary school shootings in US history are:
Sandy Hook Elementary; Newtown, CT
Robb Elementary; Uvalde, TX
Stoneman Douglas High; Parkland, FL
Columbine, High School; Columbine, CO
There are some incredibly coincidental things about them. The deadliest shooting happened at Sandy Hook in Newtown, CT. Newtown, CT is also the headquarters of the National Shooting Sports Foundation. They are the firearm industry’s trade association. Their membership is primarily composed of retailers and manufacturers. Sandy Hook Elementary and the NSSF headquarters are 3 miles apart. Many of the employees there have children in that school district; many who attended Sandy Hook Elementary at the time of the shooting.
I have always thought it was quite a coincidence that the worst school shooting in history happened at the school where the industry trade association’s kids went.
The Robb Elementary shooting occurred in Uvalde, TX days before the NRA show was scheduled to begin in Houston, TX. They are 4 hours apart, and people in Texas consider that walking distance. The scene commander ordered all officers to pull back and wait for further reinforcements, causing additional deaths. Finally Border Patrol agents disregarded the order and ended it.
In the Stoneman Douglas shooting, the scene commander also ordered officers to pull back and wait for further reinforcements, again costing additional lives I believe officers here eventually disregarded the order and ended it.
The Columbine High Shooting occurred in Columbine, CO in late April 1999; less than two weeks before the NRA show was scheduled to start in Denver, CO. Here again, the scene commander ordered officers to pull back and wait. Again it caused additional deaths. There were multiple lawsuits from parents. The result of Columbine was that the standard rules for school shooting changed to “advance towards the gunfire until the threat is resolved”. Again, after Columbine the instructions were that time equals more deaths, end it as quickly as possible.
I just find it incredibly coincidental that two of the four deadliest shootings happened days before the NRA show. And they happened in close geographic proximity within the same state to where the show was being held.
Three of the four all had the scene commander ordering officers to pull back and wait, resulting in higher death tolls.
And the deadliest in history happened 3 milea from the headquarters of the NSSF, the firearms industry trade association.
Is there anyone here good at probabilities? What are the odds of this happening?
Sandy Hook Elementary; Newtown, CT
Robb Elementary; Uvalde, TX
Stoneman Douglas High; Parkland, FL
Columbine, High School; Columbine, CO
There are some incredibly coincidental things about them. The deadliest shooting happened at Sandy Hook in Newtown, CT. Newtown, CT is also the headquarters of the National Shooting Sports Foundation. They are the firearm industry’s trade association. Their membership is primarily composed of retailers and manufacturers. Sandy Hook Elementary and the NSSF headquarters are 3 miles apart. Many of the employees there have children in that school district; many who attended Sandy Hook Elementary at the time of the shooting.
I have always thought it was quite a coincidence that the worst school shooting in history happened at the school where the industry trade association’s kids went.
The Robb Elementary shooting occurred in Uvalde, TX days before the NRA show was scheduled to begin in Houston, TX. They are 4 hours apart, and people in Texas consider that walking distance. The scene commander ordered all officers to pull back and wait for further reinforcements, causing additional deaths. Finally Border Patrol agents disregarded the order and ended it.
In the Stoneman Douglas shooting, the scene commander also ordered officers to pull back and wait for further reinforcements, again costing additional lives I believe officers here eventually disregarded the order and ended it.
The Columbine High Shooting occurred in Columbine, CO in late April 1999; less than two weeks before the NRA show was scheduled to start in Denver, CO. Here again, the scene commander ordered officers to pull back and wait. Again it caused additional deaths. There were multiple lawsuits from parents. The result of Columbine was that the standard rules for school shooting changed to “advance towards the gunfire until the threat is resolved”. Again, after Columbine the instructions were that time equals more deaths, end it as quickly as possible.
I just find it incredibly coincidental that two of the four deadliest shootings happened days before the NRA show. And they happened in close geographic proximity within the same state to where the show was being held.
Three of the four all had the scene commander ordering officers to pull back and wait, resulting in higher death tolls.
And the deadliest in history happened 3 milea from the headquarters of the NSSF, the firearms industry trade association.
Is there anyone here good at probabilities? What are the odds of this happening?
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:12 pm to captdalton
Should schools close to Richard Lipsey’s warehouse go on alert?
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:12 pm to captdalton
I think this is a case of if you look hard enough for irregularities and coincidences you'll find them
It's a big world
It's a big world
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:16 pm to Powerman
What are the US Marshals doing on scene at an incident as its happening that has nothing to do with them an hour a way from their nearest offices?
I just can't get over this fact. It makes no sense.
I just can't get over this fact. It makes no sense.
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:19 pm to Powerman
quote:Completely agree.
I think this is a case of if you look hard enough for irregularities and coincidences you'll find them
It's a big world
I mean, there was Russian collusion with the Trump campaign in 2016 so anything is possible
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:20 pm to doubleb
quote:
Should schools close to Richard Lipsey’s warehouse go on alert?
The VT shooting was the biggest death toll of any school shooting.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:21 pm to Caraway Rye
Maybe because general
Border patrol agents had to override the orders of a local moron and actually go in and out an end to that BS.
Border patrol agents had to override the orders of a local moron and actually go in and out an end to that BS.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:23 pm to Powerman
I just did a little research, and according the National Education Center, there are 131,000 k-12 schools in the US. So the odds that the deadliest school shooting in history would happen at the school closest to the NSSF headquarters is 1/131,000. That is if I remember my statistics right. But, it gets a LOT more complicated to try to figure out what the odds are that 2 of the remaining three would occur right before and right beside an NRA convention that happens once a year, and moves around year to year. And all three of them involved site commanders ordering officers to pull back and wait. I only took statistics 1 and 2 in college. I need some help.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:24 pm to captdalton
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They are 4 hours apart, and people in Texas consider that walking distance.
most texans i know can't walk 4 minutes
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:24 pm to captdalton
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:24 pm to doubleb
Virginia Tech is a college. I specifically stated k-12.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:30 pm to captdalton
quote:
What are the odds of this happening?
1 in 81 million.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:32 pm to captdalton
must be something in the water.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:33 pm to captdalton
quote:
I just did a little research, and according the National Education Center, there are 131,000 k-12 schools in the US. So the odds that the deadliest school shooting in history would happen at the school closest to the NSSF headquarters is 1/131,000
I'm sure most people have never even heard of the nssf
I'm not sure why you think there is some significance here
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:37 pm to captdalton
All mass shootings would have happened, no matter the laws on the books....
CRAZY PEOPLE and CRIMINALS DO NOT OBEY LAWS!!!!!!!
This is the easiest issue to manage....put all crazies and criminals away for good! No more second, third, and hunderdth chances....
CRAZY PEOPLE and CRIMINALS DO NOT OBEY LAWS!!!!!!!
This is the easiest issue to manage....put all crazies and criminals away for good! No more second, third, and hunderdth chances....
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:42 pm to Powerman
Just because, if everything is random, there is a 0.0008% chance that the deadliest k-12 shooting in history would happen at the school where the people that oversee the firearms industry send their kids to school. If, and this is a BIG if, you wanted to coordinate a school shooting, why not do it where you could kill four birds with one stone. Stoke the anti-gunners to assemble and cause ruckus like they are here in Houston right now, get wall to wall anti-gun news coverage, cause some Republican lawmakers to consider supporting gun control legislation, and kill a few of the kids of your opponent; the gun industry.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:43 pm to captdalton
quote:The real issue as to why it's not completely useful is that there are probably dozens of variables to compare, so you will almost always find some comparisons will match up. I have heard other conspiracy theories about Sandy Hook and I don't dismiss all of them. To people who don't like that, I say screw off.
I need some help.
What is more noticeable to me is the timing of events, all of which seem to peak around every even-numbered year (i.e. election years). That makes the shooting that occurred just before NRA meetings in the same states a little more interesting, until you figure the 28 or w/e years of NRA meetings when this didn't happen.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:45 pm to captdalton
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Virginia Tech is a college. I specifically stated k-12.
So “they” only plan elem school shootings?
Seriously what does NRA Conventions or the NSSF have to do with school shootings. There’s been a lot of them, too many; however, I can’t see the connections to the gun lobbies.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:48 pm to captdalton
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They are 4 hours apart, and people in Texas consider that walking distance.
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:56 pm to captdalton
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