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The Danchenko trial is the reason federal trials should not be held in DC

Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:23 pm
As most of you know not one Swamp Skunk has been held accountable for their corruption over the past 6 years and it appears none will be held accountable, but the Danchenko trial is the real story about the obvious two tier justice system in America…and it’s roots are In DC.

It’s estimated that DC voters are approximately 92% Groomer yet we have jury trials with both conservative and Swamp/Groomer defendants knowing full well the outcome before the trial begins because the vast majority of jurors are of the Groomer persuasion, case in point is Danchenko. How about Sussman? Maybe Clinesmith? And of course there are others but you get my point.

Does anyone believe Danchenko, Sussman or Clinesmith walk free if their trials are held outside of the DC Swamp? How about in high profile trials the jurors are selected from outside of the Groomer stronghold of DC? We do want fair trials by our peers, right?

Seriously, how can any legal proceedings involving criminal activities in DC have any merit or validity, particularly if an America First patriot is on trial?
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:25 pm to
I honestly don't see how anyone can get wrapped up in this, it's the Conservative equivalent to like Lev Parnas or George Papadopolous.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:33 pm to
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I honestly don't see how anyone can get wrapped up in this, it's the Conservative equivalent to like Lev Parnas or George Papadopolous.


What are you asking?

Should there be a concern if there’s a two tier justice system?

If that’s your question my answer is…

HELL YES!!!!
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:46 pm to
It was a weak charge. The FBI asked Danchenko to speculate as to who he thought called him with some Trump info which ended up in the Steele dossier (after asking him directly and Danchenko replied "I don't know"). Danchenko's requested speculation was Millan, even though there was no evidence to support this (which is why Durham was going with the lying to the FBI charge).

This is a red herring to me. The bigger story is why the FBI took requested speculation and used it as fact in part of their efforts to obtain a FISA warrant and their attempt to bribe Steele into corroborating the data from the dossier. I'm not a lawyer but I would think that any law enforcement agency offering to pay someone in this scenario should be considered illegal.
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:49 pm to
Trail was held in Alexandria Virginia
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:49 pm to
The Sussmann trial was about implicating the entire HFA organization up to and including Hillary Clinton itself.

The Danchenko trial was about showing how everything done with Alfa Bank could be kicked up to a higher gear when the FBI gets involved with the "evidence" fabrication.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:57 pm to
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Trail was held in Alexandria Virginia


Which is across the river and was part of the District of Columbia until Virginia took it back when it seceded from the Union.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:02 pm to
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Trail was held in Alexandria Virginia


I suspect you have windows that need licking.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:07 pm to
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The Sussmann trial


That he got off on that is truly epic bullshite which cemented the existence of a two-tiered court system in DC. Liberals get a far more lenient system, conservatives do not.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:17 pm to
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The Danchenko trial is the reason federal trials should not be held in DC by BardIt was a weak charge. The FBI asked Danchenko to speculate as to who he thought called him with some Trump info which ended up in the Steele dossier (after asking him directly and Danchenko replied "I don't know"). Danchenko's requested speculation was Millan, even though there was no evidence to support this (which is why Durham was going with the lying to the FBI charge). This is a red herring to me. The bigger story is why the FBI took requested speculation and used it as fact in part of their efforts to obtain a FISA warrant and their attempt to bribe Steele into corroborating the data from the dossier. I'm not a lawyer but I would think that any law enforcement agency offering to pay someone in this scenario should be considered illegal.


You're not wrong but you're making my point too. There's nothing in DC with regards to criminal justice that's valid or just. Everything is a show trial in DC now, particularly if a Swamp Skunk is involved. You know the Swamper is walking.....92% of the people in DC are pro Groomer/Swamp.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:21 pm to
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Trail was held in Alexandria Virginia


Which is HEAVILY blue.
Alexandria, VA voting stats from the 2020 election
Statewide results

As just an example, for the Governor's race:

Statewide:
McCauliffe (D) - 48.64% of the vote
Youngkin (R) - 50.58% of the vote

Alexandria:
McCauliffe (D) - 75.2% of the vote
Youngkin (R) - 24.02% of the vote

Alexandria went for the crap Democrat incumbent who pushed LGBTQ in schools over the GOP candidate by almost 3:1 in a state where the GOP candidate won (barely, but he still won).

Pointing out that the trial was in Alexandria does nothing but underscore the likelihood that the people there desire two different systems of justice and are basing that on party affiliation.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 1:22 pm
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:21 pm to
DC should not have a court system other than traffic court.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:22 pm to
Why are you a groomer?
Posted by Chazreinhold
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Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:27 pm to
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This is a red herring to me. The bigger story is why the FBI took requested speculation and used it as fact in part of their efforts to obtain a FISA warrant and their attempt to bribe Steele into corroborating the data from the dossier. I'm not a lawyer but I would think that any law enforcement agency offering to pay someone in this scenario should be considered illegal.


Yep, The FBI is at fault here. Bongino said today that in his Opinion the Jury wasn't going to convict this guy for telling the FBI what they wanted to hear.
Hell, the F'ers offered Chris Steele a Million Bucks to prove anything in the Dossier, which he did not.
The upper Management in The Bureau were trying to dig up any dirt they could on Trump.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 1:28 pm
Posted by cadillacattack
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:35 pm to
This is why the next President, in conjunction with Congress, should begin moving institutions like the FBI, DOJ, NSA, HHS out of the District .... lock, stock , and barrel.

By moving them out, you (a) get the chance to change the demographic makeup of both the organization and the District itself, (b) remove oversight away from the US Court of Appeals for DC, (c) insure that LEGAL accountability can be reinstituted over our bedrock Institutions, and (d) cut real estate and personnel costs currently born by the taxpayers.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 1:36 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146703 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:46 pm to
In court documents in the Durham Danchenko case that just closed it came out that...

--Igor Danchenko was a Russian KGB spy that tried to buy classified documents from co-workers at the think-tank SpysRUs Brookings Institute.

This is treason and an extreme matter of National Security. They should have cuffed this guy with Federal Marshal's and deported him

They didn't. The FBI rewarded a KGB spy with a paid FBI informant position. Our tax dollars were paying for a KGB Spy to commit a coup against a sitting President.

It is said the FBI did this to obstruct because Nunes was closing in on them at the time. The FBI was covering (obstruction) themselves and a KGB agent- committing seditious conspiracy towards Trump.

So did anybody expect them to find this KGB spy Igor Danchenko, guilty of lying to the FBI? When it was the only crime he didn't commit. He could not have lied to the FBI because they were on the same team.

Durham failed miserably at not putting the FBI/DOJ on trial. He is not going to bite the fat Barr hand that feeds him.



Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:47 pm to
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Does anyone believe Danchenko, Sussman or Clinesmith walk free

I'm going to acktually you, but Clinesmith was convicted of a felony.

He's probably angry that he took the deal, given the failures in prosecution after him.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:48 pm to
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That he got off on that is truly epic bullshite which cemented the existence of a two-tiered court system in DC. Liberals get a far more lenient system, conservatives do not.

OH no, Clinesmith getting his law license back was the Rubicon moment. That just shows you how pre-arranged everything was.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:49 pm to
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This is why the next President, in conjunction with Congress, should begin moving institutions like the FBI, DOJ, NSA, HHS out of the District .... lock, stock , and barrel.

This was one of my favorite Trump things. I really hope that Desantis can actually make it happen.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:52 pm to
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DC should not have a court system other than traffic court.



do people not get shot there?

this thread is stupid because this works the other way around too...
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 1:59 pm
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