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re: The dad knew Ahmaud previously

Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:31 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:31 am to
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Georgia law disagrees with you.

which law?
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:32 am to
How are you calling the shooter “charging” while posting a video of him backpedaling as the deceased charges him grabbing the gun
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 9:32 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:32 am to
i was more listening for the gunshot from the guy who totally wasn't pointing a gun at the deceased
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:32 am to
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dad has gun pointed the whole way


The dad doesn't even have his gun in his hand at that point of the video. You can clearly see him pick it up a few seconds later after the confrontation starts. In that screencap in the video, it actually looks like he has something up to his ear or is messing with his hat.

quote:

son is already out of the truck, "charging" the deceased


Based on the trajectory of both men, I think it's pretty clear the son isn't the one doing the charging. He's quickly backing away in a defensive posture.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 9:34 am
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:32 am to
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Seeing how deferential she was to authority, that might have been a function of how she was raised too.



She also might have just been used to it since her son had been arrested multiple times previously
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:33 am to
Twice.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:33 am to
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How are you calling the shooter “charging” while posting a video of him backpedaling as the deceased charges him grabbing the gun


a. he was already out of the truck. why?
b. he changed directions to confront the deceased
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:33 am to
Also,

Why is there dead space in the video?

I mean seriously. That's odd. Obviously video guy didn't stop and then suddenly start again.

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36350 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:33 am to
We don't know if they witnessed a felony. There was no mention made of any goods that were actually stolen in any of the official documentation. Trespassing is all the neighbor who caught Arbery on camera would admit the footage showed.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:33 am to
Slow that shows ahmaud charging at the guy.... to me that’s a damning clip
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:34 am to
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She also might have just been used to it since her son had been arrested multiple times previously



Twice. Again, her being deferential isn't evidence of anything. The fact that the police didn't tell her the truth until a news report came out is far more egregious to me.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119106 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:34 am to
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crazy4lsu


I was kind of being facetious with my list of guidelines. With that said it was the build up of stupid decision after stupid decision by both parties that led to this unfortunate incident. There were multiple opportunities for someone to humble up and allow cooler heads to prevail.

With that said, I see stupid shite like this and it worries me that someone close to me could get involved in stupidity like this. Humans can be amazingly dumb sometimes.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22661 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:35 am to
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It seems the "violent response" was due to him charging the son and trying to take his shotgun.


Pointing a gun at another individual is violence. It’s a felony under most circumstances.
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:35 am to
Too bad they killed him and didn't "arrest" him
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:35 am to
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The dad doesn't even have his gun in his hand at that point of the video.

holy shite you can clearly see him holding and aiming it

quote:

Based on the trajectory of both men, I think it's pretty clear the son isn't the one doing the charging.

he got out of the truck to confront the "jogger". that's aggression (especially when you have backup pointing a gun)
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:35 am to
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The fact that the police didn't tell her the truth


We don’t know what the truth is
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:35 am to
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It seems the "violent response" was due to him charging the son and trying to take his shotgun.

lol
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:35 am to
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which law?


The ones quoted in the da memo.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:36 am to
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Georgia law disagrees with you.


The GBI disagrees with you.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20044 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:36 am to
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The father was former LEO, if he recognized Ahmaud and suspected he was involved with a crime- why didn’t he just call a buddy still on the force? Hell, I’ve called a cop buddy to try and get out of a ticket ....why wasn’t his first response- get LEO help?


His day in court will have nothing to do with what he should have done, it will be about the facts about what actually happened and if those aren’t straight beforehand this dude could walk.

Randomly killing a man exercising and killing a man that you had an interaction with previously is pertinent and to legal proceedings. Yesterday it was the former and now, the picture is clouded. If the prosecutor ran with the assumptions based solely on the video he could lose in court.

Am I wrong about this?
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