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Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:29 am to Caplewood
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That could be where the hammer came from
A hammer that doesn't appear anywhere in the police documentation. And one hammer isn't worth all this trouble, honestly. What about all the other supposed goods, like the $2500 worth of fishing equipment? Again, the footage doesn't show any theft, just trespassing.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:29 am to crazy4lsu
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He did. He was boxed in by the person filming and the dad and his son.
What evidence do you have that he turned around? All I see on tape is him approaching them. He doesn't make a move for the woods or to turn around.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:29 am to Turbeauxdog
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Sounds like the Trayvon defense.
no Trayvon was an incident with a clear aggressor (Trayvon)
and there was no video
and there was no video of a guy holding a gun at the deceased
if GZ had pulled his gun on TM, which created the situation, he's going to jail. since he didn't, and TM attacked him, he was justified in self defense
just like the deceased here could have shot these guys in self defense when he came upon them lying in wait, holding guns
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:30 am to the808bass
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By “sounds like” you mean you’re assuming
Uhh yea that’s what everyone in this thread is doing
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:30 am to the808bass
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There is no hammer.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:30 am to rmc
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is amazing to me that people are trying to defend anything the McMichael's did here. On the flip side I think this idea that he was "just out jogging" or was out stealing doesn't matter. And I'm not sure why the family or supporters of the deceased feel the need to put it out. It simply doesn't matter.
How are you supposed? Do you understand what kind of people post on this board?
A number of people on here would do the same thing as the father-son duo.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:30 am to Aristo
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They are doing it to appeal to certain people's emotions.
The video looks bad but let’s not act like you can see shite in that horrible filming job. The dumbass who filmed it so badly should be the person getting arrested.
The media always overplays their hand. The guy was 26 but they’re acting like he was 12. It’s better to sit on the sideline and wait to see what happens instead of swallow the media lure and freak out.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:31 am to Caplewood
We’re on the same page then.
But “sounds like” is going to get some people prison time. Whereas “we saw him stealing” might be different.
But “sounds like” is going to get some people prison time. Whereas “we saw him stealing” might be different.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 10:33 am
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:31 am to Stidham8
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All acts of someone who is guilty that just committed a crime.
Dude...
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:32 am to Stidham8
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What evidence do you have that he turned around? All I see on tape is him approaching them. He doesn't make a move for the woods or to turn around.
The initial police report. Satilla Drive is a dead end, so he headed towards Buford. The McMichael's followed to the next intersection, Holmes, where they saw the guy going back to Buford.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:32 am to ShortyRob
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I just also have a sneaking suspicion that we are going to find out good old Ahmaud's mom had a solid reason for accepting the idea her son was caught in someone's home initially.
We will see.
If the fricking police show up telling you your son was killed while committing a fricking crime you are going to believe them, even if its surprising or out of character of your loved ones, you dont expect the fricking cops to fricking lie about your son's death.
Im a back the blue type from jump street, but you boys n blue need to stop the fricking bullshite, its bad enough you cant trust a fricking word the fbi utters, now local law enforcement is making up shite about a murder to cover for a redneck coffee and doughnuts pal? frick!
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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#2 has to be A LOT stronger for the 2 shooters to justify the citizen's arrest. saying you heard from somebody else that a black man was on a property isn't likely to be enough
It appears Georgia law doesn’t differentiate an occupied home with an unoccupied dwelling.
Intent to steal is all that is required for a felony in Georgia. You’re going to have to give me a reason why it’s not reasonable to think this guy was trespassing on a construction site because he intended to steal something. Is he an architecture major or officianado?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:32 am to The Boat
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The media always overplays their hand. The guy was 26 but they’re acting like he was 12. It’s better to sit on the sideline and wait to see what happens instead of swallow the media lure and freak out.
i also agree that the story is being politicized and manipulated by the media
i also will take the guess the victim wasn't the best guy
but neither was Michael Flynn and i celebrated the dismissal of his charges
bad acts can happen to bad people and it doesn't make them OK
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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if GZ had pulled his gun on TM, which created the situation, he's going to jail. since he didn't, and TM attacked him, he was justified in self defense
We have no evidence that TM himself felt threaten and he was himself acting in self defense ....TM was being hunted
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:33 am to Azkiger
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This is reaching. If I was jogging and saw a parked truck I wouldn't have given it much thought.
By the time the altercation started the jogger had seconds to process everything and make a decision. You're being a monday morning couch QB.
That could be the case. I'm not totally discounting it.
Seems more likely to me that with the reports of him robbing in high school and in the neighborhood that he wasn't an innocent jogger.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:33 am to Turbeauxdog
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It appears Georgia law doesn’t differentiate an occupied home with an unoccupied dwelling.
for what, specifically?
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Intent to steal is all that is required for a felony in Georgia.
they didn't have nearly enough information for this
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You’re going to have to give me a reason why it’s not reasonable to think this guy was trespassing on a construction site because he intended to steal something.
the 911 call didn't even articulate enough facts to establish this guy is the one who did it
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:34 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:34 am to Turbeauxdog
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Intent to steal is all that is required for a felony in Georgia. You’re going to have to give me a reason why it’s not reasonable to think this guy was trespassing on a construction site because he intended to steal something. Is he an architecture major or officianado?
The video also shows him on a dock to the river behind the houses. Maybe he just wanted to look at the water? Who knows? But regardless, there was no stolen item on his person.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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no
You’re arguing people didn’t use that defense for Trayvon? Probably even the prosecution?
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