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Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:12 pm to McLovin NOLA
There are a lot of issues with that, most significantly that the church considers tens of millions of people catholic who dont actually claim catholicism themselves. If you are baptized into the church, you are a catholic for life unless you actively request to no longer be claimed by the church.
The "growth" of the church is largely attributed to the fact that some of the words highest birth rates are in catholic dominated countries.
The "growth" of the church is largely attributed to the fact that some of the words highest birth rates are in catholic dominated countries.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:15 pm to anc
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Surveys say that 88% of those between 18-30 are out of church, and 2/3 of them have no intentions of ever going.
As a youth pastor this hurts. That being said, I believe those numbers inflated. Reality is probably closer to 60% in the US.
Outside of the US the church is growing like wild fire, it's kind of amazing. In fact at this point the US has been labeled mission field.
For too long the American Church concentrated on the consequences of not following Jesus, rather than the blessings that are bestowed when you do. This I think is the biggest problem. When a generation has been raised to believe they do no wrong you have to attract them with love. Not the facts of their wrongdoing.
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:16 pm to Roger Klarvin
the thing is for a lot of people especially in south louisiana being Catholic is a cultural thing. You get your kids baptized because that is what everyone does, you get married in the Catholic Church because everyone does. How many places in the country could you go to and during lent, restaurants will have lenten specials. I'm sure it is more than just Louisiana but I'm sure it's not everywhere. It is a different issue when you get into people who go to mass every sunday, have a prayer life, actually believe what the Church teaches and so on and so forth.
At-least in terms of just pure numbers, two big problems the Catholic Church faces and many churches for that matter is that.
less and less people are going to mass
there is a large shortage of priests and religious.
At-least in terms of just pure numbers, two big problems the Catholic Church faces and many churches for that matter is that.
less and less people are going to mass
there is a large shortage of priests and religious.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:19 pm to VaBamaMan
go to a latin american country and you will be amazed how Catholic the culture is. In this country people are up in arms about there being a cross on the side of the road. In Guatemala (went on a mission trip there) they will process with statues of Jesus, Mary, Joseph, and other saints, shooting off fireworks, along with other things. It really is a sight to behold, but in latin american countries the Catholic Church is so deeply intertwined in the culture.
Note: you don't even have to go to latin america to see it, go to most Mexican restaurants and you will see an image of Our Lady of Guadeloupe
Note: you don't even have to go to latin america to see it, go to most Mexican restaurants and you will see an image of Our Lady of Guadeloupe
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:24 pm to VaBamaMan
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For too long the American Church concentrated on the consequences of not following Jesus
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The whole image is that eternal suffering awaits anyone who questions God's infinite love. That's the message we're brought up with, isn't it? Believe or die! "Thank you, forgiving Lord, for all those options." - Bill Hicks
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:39 pm to uway
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Yeah but me and all my Catholic friends are having lots and lots of babies.
You and your "Catholic friends"[and Catholic Radio/EWTN] may very well save this heathen country. We'd better....have you noticed what BHO's pals are doing to Christians in Syria?
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:48 pm to catholictigerfan
Catholicism is more appealing to many because the church doesnt deny science, doesnt advocate abstinence from alcohol and generally has a more structured form of worship.
People are really getting tired of American evangelicals and their schtick, though.
People are really getting tired of American evangelicals and their schtick, though.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:50 pm to Roger Klarvin
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If you are baptized into the church, you are a catholic for life
and? this isn't anything new
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:52 pm to Choctaw
It just inflates catholicism's numbers is all.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:52 pm to catholictigerfan
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How many places in the country could you go to and during lent, restaurants will have lenten specials
the reason we have the Filet O Fish sandwich
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:54 pm to Choctaw
The Filet O Fish is one of the most awful things ever conceived by man, somewhere between sarin gas and Twitter.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:56 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The Filet O Fish is one of the most awful things ever conceived by man, somewhere between sarin gas and Twitter.
i don't think it was that bad when they came up with it in the 60's. great hangover food though
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:57 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:Meh.
Catholicism is more appealing to many because the church doesnt deny science, doesnt advocate abstinence from alcohol and generally has a more structured form of worship.
People are really getting tired of American evangelicals and their schtick, though.
I could cite significant outside objections to every faith (obviously including yours).
As you say though, Catholicism has its appeal. Greek or Roman, there is extraordinary tradition, symbolism, and opportunity for belief.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:04 pm to NC_Tigah
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extraordinary tradition, symbolism, and opportunity for belief.
i was born and raised Catholic but i've attended other churches (mostly because of a girlfriends wishes) and this is why i never left.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:04 pm to Choctaw
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the reason we have the Filet O Fish sandwich
Lenten Friday in south Louisiana = crawfish boil or fish fry
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:07 pm to catholictigerfan
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note: the above picture is an image of the Vatican on Divine Mercy Sunday when Pope Francis Canonized two saints Pope John Paul II and Pope John XXIII.
we are dying out
You are.
You just haven't come to grips with the truth.
Much like easter I would expect tons of people to show up for a special "catholic" event. Much like the week after easter how many of those people continue to show up.
You know the answer as do I.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:09 pm to Choctaw
quote:Symbolism and tradition is a shared and important quality amongst many religions. Catholicism (as a non-Catholic) is attractive that way.
this is why i never left.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:09 pm to VaBamaMan
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For too long the American Church concentrated on the consequences of not following Jesus, rather than the blessings that are bestowed when you do. This I think is the biggest problem. When a generation has been raised to believe they do no wrong you have to attract them with love. Not the facts of their wrongdoing.
I have long said the problem with Christianity is they are eager to hit you with the stick, rather then offer you the carrot.
It is the single biggest reason why many of my friends turned away from the church.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:12 pm to asurob1
quote:idk, the Catholic Church seems to be doing just fine . . . . in spite of all else.
Much like easter I would expect tons of people to show up for a special "catholic" event. Much like the week after easter how many of those people continue to show up
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