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re: The brand new DU bots on here are running around calling true conservatives "RINO's"
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:03 am to HVAU
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:03 am to HVAU
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What’s new is the division over whether or not you stick to your principles as an isolationist conservative, or your loyalty to an inconstant Trump. It’s an internal problem with MAGA.
The neocons never stopped being neocons. They just LARP'd to be part of the cool kids club after 2016 because they're groupies at heart.
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Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:03 am to prouddawg
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Y'all have endorsements from Bolton, Pence, Graham and Haley. Y'all aren’t RINOS, you’re neocons.
And you have the endorsement of the people who literally rape their own children to virtue signal. Congrats?
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:04 am to prouddawg
I think Nick Sabin was the best coach in football.. does that instantly make me an Alabama fan?
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:04 am to Pecos Pedro
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And you have the endorsement of the people who literally rape their own children to virtue signal.
Cope level: Infinite
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:04 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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you think making America greater means voting for the status quo
Yea not at all. I disagree with Trump on plenty but unlike you, and your idol Massie, I am not constantly trying to be a contrarian. Even the other great Libertarian hero Ron Paul doesn't go against the grain as often as Massie so why is Massie doing it? Is he truly principled, or does he just like being a contrarian?
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:06 am to Wednesday
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You’re in total lockstep with everyone he named on this issue.
Nothing like making sweeping assumptions based on a position on one solitary issue
Modern day political commentary in an nutshell. 
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:06 am to prouddawg
Yep, literally the worst people in the world are supporting this Iran action.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:08 am to LNCHBOX
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Nothing like making sweeping assumptions based on a position on one solitary issue
Clearly it's a big issue for many
Like me with spending/ the deficit.
If Trump is a big spending neocon doing globalist things, them how is he not a RINO as well?
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:08 am to stout
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great Libertarian hero
And this here is the real root of it. Libertarians are angry to find out they are not in fact republicans
Libertarians, are not conservative in ideology. There is overlap (fiscal austerity), but there is fundamental disagreement on the role of the state in conservative and libertarian beliefs. It’s why libertarians are known as classic liberalism
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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The neocons never stopped being neocons.
This is true. There are many in both parties too.
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They just LARP'd to be part of the cool kids club after 2016 because they're groupies at heart.
Some of them are new to the Necon game and only because they can never criticize Trump
I am as much of a supporter Tof rump as many, but you have to take a step back and call out the mistakes from time to time
FWIW, I am still processing the bombing and if it is a smart "peace through strength" action or not. Time will tell on that but every president this century has kicked the Iran can down the road.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:09 am to LNCHBOX
quote:If John Bolton, Bill Kristol, Jeb Bush, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, and Lindsey Graham all heavily support a position, you should take a step back and consider whether that position is terrible.
Nothing like making sweeping assumptions based on a position on one solitary issue Modern day political commentary in an nutshell.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:11 am to Bunk Moreland
Bunk, you've fought a good fight on here, and you know your history, and your insight is beautiful
God bless you
I hope you're staying here to keep fighting these fricking douchebags
(and yes, I'm the guy who uses the F word while also quoting scripture)
God bless you
I hope you're staying here to keep fighting these fricking douchebags
(and yes, I'm the guy who uses the F word while also quoting scripture)
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:11 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Massie is nothing more than an attention whore. He is what he is a do nothing libertarian. Nobody outside of his district voted for him yet he thinks he runs the house.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:12 am to prouddawg
Well . . . in this case, they are all on the side of right. Trump said no nukes for Iran, and he meant it. What part of that is hard to understand?
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:13 am to HVAU
using the word "isolationist" means you don't know what you're talking about
most people on here using that term only learned the term two months ago
most people on here using that term only learned the term two months ago
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:13 am to stout
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FWIW, I am still processing the bombing and if it is a smart "peace through strength" action or not. Time will tell on that
How Iran and Israel respond is going to be crucial
People are saying for instance that they do not support boots on the ground. I guarantee you there are responses by Iran or its proxies that would make them go back on this red line and justify boots on the ground
From a very big conceptual point of view the discussion is about the temporal status of the bombings. I see it as the beginning of something new and they see it as the end of a long-term saga
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:14 am to LNCHBOX
You do realize that one of the main reasons many Trump supporters are Trump supporters is that we rejected Haley, Graham, Jeb(!), Pence, Bolton Foreign Policy - precisely bc it prioritized other countries over our own. These assholes basically became Democrats who bombed shite.
This desire for endless warmongering swallowed whole EVERY ISSUE. It’s all they’re fricking worried about.
I’m a hard NO about returning to the GOP of old.
This desire for endless warmongering swallowed whole EVERY ISSUE. It’s all they’re fricking worried about.
I’m a hard NO about returning to the GOP of old.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:15 am to Scruffy
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New DU bots?
I’ve been on this board longer than you.
Hell, I’ve actually been on this board since 2007.
And you guys are 100% RINOs.
which "you guys"???
being anti war?
I'm supposed to give a shite you joined the board in 2007???
holy shite you're fricking stupid
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:15 am to Scruffy
Yep. I took a step back and the position is still correct, still justified and still exactly the position that Trump has taken all along.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 8:16 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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Straight out of Saul Alinski's Rules for Radicals
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