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re: The .30-06 conspiracy theory is the theory with the most legs.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:59 am to alphaandomega
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:59 am to alphaandomega
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the shoulder area is thicker and has much more bone than a human neck has.
Thats not totally accurate, and if youre using TTSX bullets you are using something that some people dont like specifically because it penetrates so well.
The only air in a neck is the esophagus. Everything else is extremely dense. The chest cavity has a lot of air in it and is the least dense part of an animal.
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:08 am to Sassafrasology
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Good point. Older rifles can exhibit throat erosion and barrel wear. Combine this with older .30-06 rounds and it could have been a round that shot straight with dissipated energy.
This is a good theory. Old gun, possibly old ammo, and the round lost energy. That actually could explain a head shot that dropped several inches and hit low on the neck.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:10 am to RollTide4547
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I'm sure a 30-06 will deflect some when it hits bone, but not enough to stay in the body.
Yes but "bullets are weird I shot deer in the neck with .300 ultra mag 10 yards away and it didn't exit". One guy tried to tell me on here that he can go to any ammo shop and buy 30-06 rounds that won't exit a neck. One thing I can promise none of the "bullets are weird" people will make a video of a 30-06 not exiting anything similar to a human neck.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:10 am to jrodLSUke
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This is a good theory
Throat erosion and barrel wear lead to degraded accuracy, not degraded velocity in any appreciable manner
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:12 am to Schleynole
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One thing I can promise none of the "bullets are weird" people will make a video of a 30-06 not exiting anything similar to a human neck.
No, I wont. Not because im wrong, but because im not going to expend time and energy doing something to prove an internet idiot wrong.
Im simply trying to stop the spread of a rediculous conspiracy theory that happens to align with some of my expertise.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:19 am to Schleynole
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One thing I can promise none of the "bullets are weird" people will make a video of a 30-06 not exiting anything similar to a human neck.
I posted a very long response in your previous thread which included notes from medical journal case studies of high velocity rounds not having exit wounds on people. You completely ignored it.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:57 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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No, I wont
I know
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:59 am to Schleynole
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Yes but "bullets are weird
What type of cartridge did the shooter use? Youre digging a hole you will never climb out of.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:05 am to the808bass
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You completely ignored it.
I got a lot of replies. Tried to respond to them all.
Bad load would be my guess but let's say it's possible what percentage of the time does a 30.06 round not exit when hitting the neck like with Kirk? 1 in 10,000?
1 in 100,000? I don't think it's possible at all but if it is it's minuscule
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:one bought from a store. That's all I need to know
What type of cartridge did the shooter use? Youre digging a hole you will never climb out of.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:07 am to Schleynole
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one bought from a store.
Youre so fricking ignorant.
And proud of it.
Do you think all 30-06 rounds, even handloads are equal?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:08 am to Schleynole
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what percentage of the time does a 30.06 round not exit
Its highly dependent on the construction of the projectile, something you are 100% oblivious to...
Youve been told many times the cartridge is far more important than the firearm in this situation.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Youve been told many times the cartridge is far more important than the firearm in this situation.
I've asked many times. What 30.06 round isn't going through. I've got a 30-06, there's a gun store right down the road to get ammo. I'll test your theory.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:32 am to Schleynole
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I've asked many times
You dont understand what youre talking about. Its clear that you dont understand that all cartridges are not created equally.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Apparently you don't know what "allude" means then.
Its exactly what you alluded to.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:47 am to RollTide4547
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Apparently you don't know what "allude" means then.
What type of round did Robinson use?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:What I have read says it was a 30-06 round. The Mauser Model 98 was originally 8 mm. Ballistics of 8mm show to be around 2500-2800 ft/lbs of energy using 150-200 grain bullets. Not that different than a 30-06.
What type of round did Robinson use?
I don't know what rifle or round was used. I don't know if the bullet exited or not. Just saying my experience is that no way a 30-06 was used and it did not exit the back side.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:59 am to NC_Tigah
quote:No way either one of those is possible with the 30-06 I own. Human necks are not nearly as thick or dense as a deer chest cavity. I've never had a 180 grain 30-06 round not exit a deer's chest cavity. 2500+ ft/lbs of force is a LOT of force.
MLK was shot in the neck, with a .30-06 from a distance of 207 ft. No exit wound! CK was shot in the neck, with a .30-06 from a distance of 427 ft. No exit wound! But somehow the latter is viewed as completely impossible.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:59 am to RollTide4547
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Ballistics of 8mm show to be around 2500-2800 ft/lbs of energy using 150-200 grain bullets. Not that different than a 30-06.
What was the projectile? FMJ, soft point, polymer tipped, hollow point..
Was it a reload or factory? 110gr or 220gr? What type of powder?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:02 am to Sassafrasology
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Can you provide a link with a neck stopping an.30-06 round from -200 yards and a 9 degree incline stopping a .30-06 round besides CK?
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