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re: The 2A Gives Individuals the Right to Weapons -This Right May Also Be Reasonably Regulated

Posted on 5/31/26 at 6:42 am to
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20310 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 6:42 am to
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Why are the Left so hell bent on controlling people when it comes to self defense but NOT protecting the most vulnerable?


Bc they need those guns to have full control. It’s their last piece.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4792 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 6:43 am to
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Why would a 3 year old have a gun?

I will answer this the way that the strict " shall not be infringed" crowd answers all of these types of questions.... Why not?
If you can put forward any answer to my question of "why not", then you are making an argument for restrictions on a 3 yr. old owning a gun, hence my original point.
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
2450 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 6:45 am to
Regulation is talking about the troops so that when called up in war they would become a militia that was well regulated.
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
7276 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 6:45 am to

The funny part is they are ignoring the most important part "Shall not be infringed".


What part of this says regulation?
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20310 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 6:50 am to
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I will answer this the way that the strict " shall not be infringed" crowd answers all of these types of questions.... Why not? If you can put forward any answer to my question of "why not", then you are making an argument for restrictions on a 3 yr. old owning a gun, hence my original point.



Toddler firearm ownership, check
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
22473 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 6:51 am to
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Serious question: do you think a 3 yr. old should have the right to own a firearm?


A child's rights are tempered by their parents... as it has been forever.

You need a better argument.

Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17613 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 6:54 am to
I thought we were now on the "we must read and interpret the constitution exactly as written at the time it was written" phase now when it comes to birthright citizenship? And there is no debate on intent? Funny how we always break back down to debate the only amendment that ends with "shall not be infringed".

With that said... did Americans have the same weapons the Continental Army did at the time the 2nd was written? And who exactly was considered "the militia" say, on the night of Paul Revere's ride to alert of advancing British troops?
This post was edited on 5/31/26 at 6:56 am
Posted by Shorty_price
Member since Oct 2018
420 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 6:56 am to
3 year olds have as many rights as their parents allow them to have. I don't need a government to tell me what is good for my child and what isn't.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20310 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 6:57 am to
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You need a better argument.


It’s the only argument I need Shawn!
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17912 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 7:01 am to
Explain what “shall not be infringed” means.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19557 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 7:03 am to
“ then you are fine with a 3 year old owning a gun. If you are not fine with a 3 year old owning a gun, then you support federal oversight and restrictions on gun ownership.”

One could be open to no regulations on owning a gun without be so stupid in letting a child of 3 play with a working gun. I was probably 5-6 when my father and grandfather took me squirrel hunting, and maybe 7-8 on my first duck hunt. But I can definitely say they didn’t let me carry that shotgun out of worry in hurting another. That’s what is called being responsible
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
2473 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 7:05 am to
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If you are in the camp that believes there should be no regulations on what type of weapon or who can possess such weapons, then you are fine with a 3 year old owning a gun. If you are not fine with a 3 year old owning a gun, then you support federal oversight and restrictions on gun ownership.
I use this example to point out that the OP is correct - the 2A should be reasonably regulated by the federal government.
A 3 year old doesn’t own anything. I had access to guns at 6-7 and got a shotgun for Xmas when I was 9. I bought an HK 93 when I was 17, technically my mother had to buy it for me because of 18 to purchase law. You would probably say that is too young for a person and want the government to regulate it more because some 12 year old urbanite is robbing and shooting people in Chicago.
Reasonably regulated is relative, I can name more than a few in government that are unreasonable. What AOC sees as reasonable “common sense” I see as ridiculous and infringing on our present day rights. The path to change the constitution is 2/3 votes of both houses and ratified by 3/4 or presently 38 states. I am willing to accept that outcome if it happens, until then, no.

Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19313 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 7:06 am to
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they are ignoring the most important part "Shall not be infringed".

What part of this says regulation?
The entire point of the 10 amendments is to limit government. Yet, people who don't understand what "well regulated" means think the first words of the 2nd Amendment are to empower the government?

We have done a poor job of educating people that a "well regulated" militia means one that is well trained and well armed.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35356 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 7:06 am to
quote:

If you are in the camp that believes there should be no regulations on what type of weapon or who can possess such weapons, then you are fine with a 3 year old owning a gun. If you are not fine with a 3 year old owning a gun, then you support federal oversight and restrictions on gun ownership. I use this example to point out that the OP is correct - the 2A should be reasonably regulated by the federal government.


You really thought you were onto something there, didn’t you?
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17613 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 7:07 am to
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If you are in the camp that believes there should be no regulations on what type of weapon or who can possess such weapons, then you are fine with a 3 year old owning a gun.


Actually... if you wanna get technical... a three year old can "own" a gun. Firearms can be passed down and left to others through a trust for example. If grandpa wanted his only grandson to have his Benelli shotgun.. thst can be put in the trust and name him in it.

They can't "buy" them obviously.

And parental control oversees rhe use. Hell... I had a .22 rifle and a remengton 1100 12 ga. that was technically mine when it was 8 or 9.
This post was edited on 5/31/26 at 7:10 am
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82569 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 7:08 am to
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If there was a need to overthrow the modern government, there’s no way personal arms can reasonably counter the modern DoD.


I was told that the government could be overthrown by uninvited people occupying the capital building.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20310 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 7:09 am to
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bought an HK 93 when I was 17, technically my mother had to buy it for me because of 18 to purchase law. You would probably say that is too young for a person and want the government to regulate it more because some 12 year old urbanite is robbing and shooting people in Chicago.


Regulate guns not gender reassignment surgery ages
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17613 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 7:11 am to
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I was told that the government could be overthrown by uninvited people occupying the capital building.


And unarmed as well. We almost lost our entire democracy to a couple thousand unarmed people.

In the next breath hundreds of millions of armed citizens are no threat to the government.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17912 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 7:14 am to
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then you are fine with a 3 year old owning a gun.


Do you say the same for knives? How about screw drivers? What about chairs or platforms they can climb on? How far are we going with this?
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
37632 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 7:15 am to
Bottom line: if you’re a law abiding citizen, you have a right to own guns and use them in legal circumstances.

Overthrowing the government is 100% illegal. You can try it but you better win, else you likely forfeit your life.

As far as meaning goes, nothing has any true and enduring meaning except the meaning you give it.

There’s no need to debate any of this really. It’s dead simple.
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