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re: The 1.9 million "self deportation" figure is nonsense

Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:15 am to
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:15 am to
If true, still more than what Biden was doing by a long shot. I would not kick Trump out of office for this.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:15 am to
That’s not the problem Jake. His sourcing is flawed.

All the ice protests are because ice isn’t trying to deport illegals? I’m fine if he started a thread and asked for more to be done, but that source is just as bad as any mainstream media bs reporting that you I’m sure have bashed.

You good with that now?
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:16 am to
quote:

You believe the numbers the admin has released?


As long as the numbers keep growing, I'm fine.

I also recognize they are fighting one hell of an uphill battle and am thankful they haven't given up or slowed down.

Winnie needs to breathe. Rollercoasting politics isn't good for anyone.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:21 am to
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All the ice protests are because ice isn’t trying to deport illegals?
The article does not say ICE isn't deporting. It mentions that possibly up to 400,000 have been removed through legal processes including ICE. It is saying that 1.9 million have not self-deported.

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The initial estimate that about 400,000 immigrants had been deported, and a total of around 600,000 deportations were carried out for the full year, may well be accurate. But the initial assertion that 1.6 million immigrants had already self-deported by September was a self-serving fantasy
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 10:25 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:22 am to
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As long as the numbers keep growing, I'm fine.

I also recognize they are fighting one hell of an uphill battle and am thankful they haven't given up or slowed down
Fine. Keep working on it. OP just wants more accurate numbers.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:28 am to
Right gotcha and I stand corrected, but you still good with the source being used?

Thats my issue. Op even admits it’s a bad source. Before you ask, I don’t trust much out of DC anymore. I have issues with several things being done and not being done. From the president down, congress, senate, etc.


You support ultra biased reporting or opinion pieces now?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79924 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:32 am to
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Right gotcha and I stand corrected, but you still good with the source being used?
What he says makes sense, that surveys and self-reports are inaccurate when your target doesnt participate. Why would this guy want to calm his side's indignation by telling them almost nothing is happening? Shouldn't he be screaming about how the sky will fall with all of these self-deportations?
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:42 am to
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Broad Definitions: The administration likely includes people who simply changed their living situation to avoid detection, died, or had their legal status changed, rather than people physically leaving the country.


My suspicion is that they are including people who have taken voluntary departure in lieu of removal while in proceedings in that number. I've heard stories/rumors of ICE even offering VD to detainees who have removal orders with pending appeals, presumably to get them out quicker and inflate the amount of departure numbers.
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 10:46 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:03 am to
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Im tired of being lied to.


You're going to enjoy your pudding slop that Trump feeds you. And you're going to like it!

How are you going to have any pudding if you don't take your meat?

LINK
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:06 am to
My good mate Jake88
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
1225 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:07 am to
When people call out Trump for his shortcomings and lies, people on this board take it personally like they are getting attacked too.

That's when you know they are fully committed to the cult. Easy to tell who they are. They swarm to those threads like locusts.
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