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Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:47 pm to dkreller
Recap of how I got dumber on this thread....
1) There is no covid.
- Can someone explain to me where the mass hospitalizations are coming from? Where did the excess ICU patients come from?
2) The delta variant doesn't exist because it is just different letters.
-Damn. None us exist because our DNA is just different letters. Life is a bitch.
3) Healthcare systems/providers are getting huge kickbacks from this disease.
Response: I will need to ask my Healthcare Friends for a loan. They all must be in on the conspiracy.
4) it's not a vaccine because you need a booster
- I truly don't know how to respond to this one.
5) omitted secondary to ill will on my part.
6) This might be one of the most illogical boards I've ever read in my life. It is mildly infuriating for someone with average intelligence to even fathom half of these theories. This is coming from someone that has voted mainly Red for my entire life.
1) There is no covid.
- Can someone explain to me where the mass hospitalizations are coming from? Where did the excess ICU patients come from?
2) The delta variant doesn't exist because it is just different letters.
-Damn. None us exist because our DNA is just different letters. Life is a bitch.
3) Healthcare systems/providers are getting huge kickbacks from this disease.
Response: I will need to ask my Healthcare Friends for a loan. They all must be in on the conspiracy.
4) it's not a vaccine because you need a booster
- I truly don't know how to respond to this one.
5) omitted secondary to ill will on my part.
6) This might be one of the most illogical boards I've ever read in my life. It is mildly infuriating for someone with average intelligence to even fathom half of these theories. This is coming from someone that has voted mainly Red for my entire life.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:51 pm to GeauxTigers777
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A guy wjrh a microbiology degree knows the mRNA vaccine is worse, because he studied it for a lot of years. Yet he can't actually remember why.
- there might be a reason you did not make it into med school with your micro degree.
The only downside of the mRNA vaccines is having to get shots indefinitely. I never said they don’t work.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:54 pm to dkreller
This was not a nice thing to say and I have redacted my post, and I apologize for my frustration.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:54 pm to dkreller
What happened to the airquotes? 
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:56 pm to GeauxTigers777
quote:
There is no covid.
- Can someone explain to me where the mass hospitalizations are coming from? Where did the excess ICU patients come from?
My favorite one (in this thread, no less) is we've never "seen" covid-19. I've also heard we've never "isolated" it. Like, good God, expend one iota of mental energy before propagating such obvious nonsense.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:58 pm to jonnyanony
The airquotes are merely there because the mRNA “vaccines“ are not vaccines in the traditional sense. I know a lot of people don’t really understand the difference of what is on the market.
I get that you understand so I figure I’ll drop the quotes while we discuss.
I bolded them to make you happy.
I get that you understand so I figure I’ll drop the quotes while we discuss.
I bolded them to make you happy.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:01 pm to AMS
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...that awkward moment you realize masses of people are entirely ignorant that most vaccines have boosters.
Now name one where a booster is required every 6 months.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:02 pm to dkreller
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The airquotes are merely there because the mRNA “vaccines“ are not vaccines in the traditional sense.
Why do people keep saying traditional in terms of vaccine? What does it mean? Is a toxoid vaccine not a vaccine? Is any subunit vaccine not a vaccine? The newer trend before COVID was vaccines based on virus-like particles. Are those vaccines? Should we go back to Dryvax and its famous injury rate?
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:06 pm to 4evrlsu
So multiple kids' vaccines require boosters within 6-12 month time periods.
I guess most of my frustration is that this virus should be looked at more like the flu than polio. It is likely going to mutate as we go. We are like to need further advances and possibly even further vaccines. If that keeps my loved ones safe, and decreases the risks of death, I have no problem with that. This looks like humanity is purely adapting as we go, because guess what, we are. That's what happens when dealing with novel viruses.
I guess most of my frustration is that this virus should be looked at more like the flu than polio. It is likely going to mutate as we go. We are like to need further advances and possibly even further vaccines. If that keeps my loved ones safe, and decreases the risks of death, I have no problem with that. This looks like humanity is purely adapting as we go, because guess what, we are. That's what happens when dealing with novel viruses.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:10 pm to jonnyanony
Aside from the lack of long term data on all of the vaccines, there are a few questions that prevent me from jumping out to get vaccinated.
If doctors are suggesting that you should not get vaccinated within what is it 8 weeks of catching Covid? there must be something that reduces the efficacy of the vaccine if you don’t adhere to these guidelines. With that said, why aren’t people getting antibody tests prior to vaccination? In my opinion there are probably a large amount of people who contracted covid and were asymptomatic.
If/when I do get vaccinated, I will defintely seek out the J&J vaccine.
I am really interested to know if hospitals are documenting which vaccine infected covid patients took. I asked my sister-in-law last night that same question and she said she had not seen that data.
If doctors are suggesting that you should not get vaccinated within what is it 8 weeks of catching Covid? there must be something that reduces the efficacy of the vaccine if you don’t adhere to these guidelines. With that said, why aren’t people getting antibody tests prior to vaccination? In my opinion there are probably a large amount of people who contracted covid and were asymptomatic.
If/when I do get vaccinated, I will defintely seek out the J&J vaccine.
I am really interested to know if hospitals are documenting which vaccine infected covid patients took. I asked my sister-in-law last night that same question and she said she had not seen that data.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:16 pm to dkreller
From what I have seen/heard it is being documented as vaccinated, but I don't know of a centralized database for reporting each additional breakthrough. I agree that Ab testing would be an ideal monitoring situation, and personally, I do not know the reason/threshold that maintains immunity. Also, I do wish vaccine immunity was a bit more easily availible to be tested. Again, I think the bottom line is that we still just don't know. We are early in this battle.
Again, I apologize for my personal attack. It was uncalled for. Best of luck to you, and I'm done.
Again, I apologize for my personal attack. It was uncalled for. Best of luck to you, and I'm done.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:20 pm to MMauler
I agree with everything on this thread.
But the real story that should be in the news everyday
Is what are we going to do about China
And Fauci
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:22 pm to AMS
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we have boosters for many shots throughout childhood and adulthood. that doesnt mean the shots dont work at all. they just aren't magically immutable invincibility
Yeah….like TEN YEARS after the first dose. Not six friggin’ months!
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:24 pm to crazy4lsu
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Why do people keep saying traditional in terms of vaccine?
I think they and myself are referring to live attenuated or inactivated vaccines. Plus the mRNA vaccines are new types of vaccines so it’s probably safe to call them non-traditional at the least.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:25 pm to Seldom Seen
And people who don't get each and every boost shot..will be shunned by society.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:28 pm to dkreller
Since you're an expert, could you possibly list the mRNA vaccines that work?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:30 pm to GeauxTigers777
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That's what happens when dealing with novel viruses.
And you made so much sense until here.
Genomic sequencing shows that this virus is about 90%+ the same as SARS.
Hardly novel
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:34 pm to AmishSamurai
How about novel widespread infection to said virus.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 8:37 pm to dkreller
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I think they and myself are referring to live attenuated or inactivated vaccines. Plus the mRNA vaccines are new types of vaccines so it’s probably safe to call them non-traditional at the least.
Arguably, they represent a trend that started in vaccine design some time ago. Before COVID, the example would have been the relatively new recombinant VZW vaccine using glycoprotein E. But I don’t see a meaningful different between sub-unit vaccines and mRNA vaccines in design principle. If the mRNA vaccine ends up more like the unconjugated pneumococcal vaccine, that would explain the need for boosters.
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