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Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:42 am to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:42 am to
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Obtw, I just talked to a Reliant representative and they said that anybody with a contract rate will still get that same rate. It's the month-to-month people who are going to have sticker shock.


This is accurate, though even those on month to month plans are somewhat protected by the state of emergency declaration. Abbott is going to be EXTREMELY strict with price hikes by power companies.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:44 am to
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Trust me


No.

Go shite up a rope.
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
15745 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:53 am to
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:36 am to
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shite up a rope.

Gross
Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
2536 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 6:40 am to
How is it that Texas power grid seems to fail with 5M+ without power while it seems like Oklahoma is doing just fine? Is the Texas power grid that bad?
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9662 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:03 am to
Some fixed rate plans are fixed rate plus a fuel adjustment. Been without power now for 48 hours now. Ugly way to avoid peak power costs.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29298 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:10 am to
A few headlines from The Bee

People Who Moved To Texas From California Finally Feeling At Home Now That Power Is Out




Texans Forced To Cut Open Cattle With Lightsabers And Climb Inside For Warmth


Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:17 am to
Nothing wrong with the infrastructure.

This is a supply redundancy issue when you rely on renewables that don't show up.

Other markets have 'capacity markets' which pays generator to stick around but not generate.

Think of paying farmers to be in the 'not raising hogs' business. Even though they are not delivering any goods, they are being paid to stick around just in case.

Texas does not have a capacity market but most other grids do. In the original design the idea was that paying for people to do nothing but exist was wasteful. And while that is true, you do create a reliability risk.

So the question is, how much reliability are you willing to pay for?
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:33 pm to


Arkansas was one of the hardest hit, with both ice last week and a foot-plus of snow this week.

Can one of you energy knowledgeable people explain possibly why there different? Is it just less customers/demand on tbeir grid?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16650 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:39 pm to
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Can one of you energy knowledgeable people explain possibly why there different? Is it just less customers/demand on tbeir grid?


I think step 1 is population correcting that.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16650 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:42 pm to
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Oh. You do the easy stuff.


Dude, it was easy back when I got to use the c list IE companies. Now that they make me use people with integrity and these banks all have their own phd engineers who are IE alum, it’s gotten more complicated. But I still get them done.

quote:

Watch what Total is doing


Thanks for the heads up, I’ve heard they’re making moves but need to read up on it.
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 12:59 pm
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