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re: Teslas charging at a gas station...

Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:13 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:13 am to
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Be precise. Are you still referring to the Carvana fraud on used Tesla's?
I'm referring to every point you've ever made about Tesla. You're always wrong, you know that.

You said they don't hold value. You said they're not considered safe cars. You said they lose money on every single Tesla they sell, etc.

Those are just a few examples of things you've said that are 100% incorrect, but again, you know that.

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Congrats on simping for Camry with Ipad like a woman in heat.
Congrats on always being wrong and made to foolish over and over and over again. Sounds like you've gotten used to it at this point, seems to be your thing.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11958 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:14 am to
Shel in real life

Ya, bro. Literally everything

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Sounds like you've gotten used to it at this point, seems to be your thing.


You can't argue with a cultist

I do applaud your stunning bravery being a test dummy for Elon's fake auto pilot. That data will be valuable
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 9:19 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:17 am to
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So it's bad to charge it up fully yet at home yet you charge it every night.
Reread what you just said.

I charge every night. I don't charge fully to 100% every night. Not sure what point you're making there?

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So people who have already bought and paid for vehicles it's practical to go spend more money on an EV or create a new bill just because joe biden said so?
What? This doesn't even make sense. So you're logic here is saying that gas vehicles are also impractical, do you not realize that?

When your argument comes down to "why should someone get a Tesla when they just bought another car?" you gotta admit that's pretty silly.

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This is a lie
Ah, we're back to the old "I don't want it to be true just cause, so I'll just call it a lie" argument.

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all I did was go to their website you can get max 44 miles of range per hour with their home chargers on certain models after you pay someone to install the equipment, talk about misinformation, here's the link for you so you get your BS straight.
What BS?

I said I charge up at night, and it takes about 30-45 minutes. Please explain what part you just quoted that makes what I said a lie. I'll wait...


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:18 am to
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Shel in real life

Ya, bro. Literally everything
shite, I touched a nerve with this poster, something hit a bit too close to home for you.

Ok you got your attention too, you can go troll another thread too with the other dude.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 9:19 am
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11958 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:20 am to
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shite, I touched a nerve with this poster, something hit a bit too close to home for you.



Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:26 am to
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By your definition then your ICE is impractical as you did not have a gas station at your apartment complex


Idiotic argument. You made the claim that "charging at home is practical".

Your statement is a red herring. Where gas pumps are located has NOTHING to do with whether it is or is not "practical" to "charge at home".

For many, it is not. The infrastructure simply isn't there.

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Technically you can connect your Tesla to a standard 110v plug receptacle with the free adapter that comes with the car. But you can only charge slowly–at about 3 miles of range per hour parked. It’s about as practical as refilling a gas car’s tank with an eye dropper. It will take up to 4 full days to fully recharge an empty Tesla car battery using a regular wall outlet.


The only reason I have a 220v outlet in my garage is because I weld. Otherwise, the only OTHER 220v outlet is in my laundry room. Can't hardly park the car in there.

As I said, if an EV fits your lifestyle, and you're willing and to pay for a charging station install, and installing a charging station is allowed (it may not be in a majority of apartment complexes), then go for it. I have nothing against people who drive Teslas or EVs in general.



Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:27 am to
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Why is there a 15 page thread on Camry with Ipad?


Tesla fanboys are a weird group
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157610 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:30 am to
They are Apple computer people on extra high doses of estrogen
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 9:32 am
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:31 am to
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Tesla fanboys are a weird group



maybe but they are at least much better informed than the die hard anti-tesla crowd.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:33 am to
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maybe but they are at least much better informed than the die hard anti-tesla crowd.


That's debatable. We have people claiming that it's "practical" for everyone to charge an EV from their home.

It's not. The Tesla cult is just as uninformed and insulated in their own bubble as everyone else.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:33 am to
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Depends on how much he drives. Why are we assuming the battery is completely drained every day of use?
That's exactly what he did.

He linked and specifically pointed out how it charges 44 miles per hour. Then called me a liar and said I was spewing BS because I can charge nightly in less than an hour. He was so quick to want to be right and call me on my shite that he didn't realize that maybe just maybe I drive less than 44 miles per day, so yes, I can easily charge up in an hour. The answer was right there for him in the link and text he provided himself
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38681 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:38 am to
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For many, it is not. The infrastructure simply isn't there.


My point is that it is there. Using your example of an apartment complex, these people cannot charge their car at night just like you cannot fill up your gas tank on property. So they have to go to a charger just like you have to go to a gas station. A simple EV charging map search will show you that their are plenty of charges in most areas. Most of our national population lives in cities and does not drive in rural areas.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38681 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:41 am to
The typical louisiana education isn't going to help comprehend that though. I feel like we are dealing with people who hardly leave the south. We are already seeing the "democrat/liberal/progressive" comments thT is typical of an area that is behind in what matters. But hey, drinking 15 mich ultras and making a jambalaya is not something everyone can do!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:44 am to
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The typical louisiana education isn't going to help comprehend that though. I feel like we are dealing with people who hardly leave the south. We are already seeing the "democrat/liberal/progressive" comments thT is typical of an area that is behind in what matters. But hey, drinking 15 mich ultras and making a jambalaya is not something everyone can do!

That's basically it, it's just funny to watch.

You can see it above. A poster will say flatly that Teslas don't hold value and aren't safe. Then you can reply with multiple links showing they actually are one of the best brands out there in terms of resale value and safety, and then 3 posters will reply, "Look at that, he's just a Tesla fanboy" and actually think what they said was funny and smart lol.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 9:45 am
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:44 am to
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maybe but they are at least much better informed than the die hard anti-tesla crowd.


To be clear, I’m not anti Tesla at all. I like Elon and think he’s pushed forward a lot of beneficial tech

I’m not anti electric vehicle either. To this point there just hasn’t been anything produced that interests me and the tech wouldn’t match my lifestyle. As I said earlier, the Hummer EV definitely has my attention
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38681 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:45 am to
You have a healthy opinion sir
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:49 am to
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I’m not anti electric vehicle either. To this point there just hasn’t been anything produced that interests me and the tech wouldn’t match my lifestyle. As I said earlier, the Hummer EV definitely has my attention

Right, just like any vehicle out there, they're not for everyone and aren't practical for everyone.

Posters will say they're not practical(and they may not be for that person) but they'll specifically say in general they're just not practical cars. Then you can point out how they actually are practical for your normal daily commuters which is probably the majority of folks. Then that poster will talk about cross country trips and going to remote places to prove they're not practical.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:51 am to
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My point is that it is there. Using your example of an apartment complex, these people cannot charge their car at night just like you cannot fill up your gas tank on property. So they have to go to a charger just like you have to go to a gas station. A simple EV charging map search will show you that their are plenty of charges in most areas. Most of our national population lives in cities and does not drive in rural areas.


Let's backtrack just a bit and see where your EV erection is coming from....

Do you think that it's practical for "everyone" to own an EV?

Do you think that every homeowner has the infrastructure to charge their vehicle at home? (hint: they don't).

It is fricking NOT there. There are TWO charging stations in my town. Convert 50% of the cars to EVs and not only will it take you an age to charge your car because you can't charge it at home, there will be a fricking LINE of cars to wait behind before you get your turn to charge.

You're a moron.
Again, if an EV fits your lifestyle, you should be free to drive one. But don't shove that shite on my and ask me to subsidize your green, tree-hugging wet dream.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:55 am to
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Do you think that it's practical for "everyone" to own an EV?

Do you think that every homeowner has the infrastructure to charge their vehicle at home? (hint: they don't).
No and no

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It is fricking NOT there. There are TWO charging stations in my town. Convert 50% of the cars to EVs and not only will it take you an age to charge your car because you can't charge it at home, there will be a fricking LINE of cars to wait behind before you get your turn to charge.
But if you convert 50% of cars in your town to EVs, then why are you assuming only 2 charging stations remain? In your hypothetical, very very obviously a shite ton more chargers would be installed, so I don't really get why you make teh assumption of adding 1000s of EVs but adding 0 additional charges, that's not logical.

Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11958 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:56 am to
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Posters will say they're not practical


Incorrect. The market says they aren't practical.
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