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re: Teslas charging at a gas station...
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:59 am to shel311
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:59 am to shel311
quote:
But if you convert 50% of cars in your town to EVs, then why are you assuming only 2 charging stations remain? In your hypothetical, very very obviously a shite ton more chargers would be installed, so I don't really get why you make teh assumption of adding 1000s of EVs but adding 0 additional charges, that's not logical.
You think that this transformation will happen overnight. Because you're a moron.
People won't buy EV's before there is the infrastructure to support them. People won't build the infrastructure until there is enough demand to support it.
The best way is to let the market decide. Period. You apparently have never taken a business or economics class in your life.
So, take your EV erection and go buy a Tesla. Nothing against you for doing so. And if a gas station can't justify the cost of taking up valuable real estate to install a crapload of charging stations at a loss, I can't blame them, either. Your arguments are pure horse shite.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 10:01 am
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Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:02 am to wutangfinancial
quote:Does something that is impractical usually increase deliveries annually at the rate Tesla has? Seems like if it were impractical, units sold would be going the other way and dropping, no?
Incorrect. The market says they aren't practical.
Or...are you comparing essentially a new car company comparably speaking in a a new space to established companies like, say, Ford and Chevy to make your point seem correct but leaving out context?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:03 am to shel311
quote:
Does something that is impractical usually increase deliveries annually at the rate Tesla has? Seems like if it were impractical, units sold would be going the other way and dropping, no?
Or...are you comparing essentially a new car company comparably speaking in a a new space to established companies like, say, Ford and Chevy to make your point seem correct but leaving out context?
No context required. Let's see how Tesla does without the ability to sell it's fictional carbon credits to other companies because the government mandated it.
They'd be bankrupt in a month.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:07 am to BiteMe2020
quote:Why are you calling me a moron when you're the only one who magically made up the hypothetical to convert 50% of cars to EVs? You have no self awareness whatsoever, you basically called yourself a moron without realizing it.
You think that this transformation will happen overnight. Because you're a moron.
So tell me, why did convert 50% of cars in town to EV overnight? Was that not a moronic thing for you to do?
Imagine calling someone a moron for doing the exact same thing you just did. Oops!
quote:People are buying EVs now, the annual % increase in EVs sold is pretty high, it's happening starting now and only going to continue to grow. You don't have to like it, but that is what is going to happen.
People won't buy EV's before there is the infrastructure to support them.
quote:Agreed
The best way is to let the market decide. Period.
quote:What have I said that makes you say that? I bet you can't point it out. I bet you're just saying that for the sake of saying but you have no basis for doing so, but feel free to prove me wrong.
You apparently have never taken a business or economics class in your life.
quote:Why is this discussion making you pissy? That's weird.
So, take your EV erection and go buy a Tesla.
quote:Like what argument, name one that was horseshite? Oh, you're talking about me saying if you magically converted 50% of cars into EVs then there would be more charging stations, then you pretended I said the charging stations would pop up overnight, so you called me a moron despite you pretending 50% more EVs would show up overnight? Was that argument horseshite?
Your arguments are pure horse shite.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:08 am to shel311
Listen man, you need to stop being so sensitive. I have an opinion on their valuation, it's not that big of a deal. I'm happy for you that you love your car like it's your own kid. They do not grow without opening new markets, massive subsidies and a cost of capital of 0 during a market euphoria. They have survived on via their equity valuation and aren't going anywhere. You need to stop using talking points from 2016 that aren't even relevant to the economics.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:11 am to shel311
quote:
Why are you calling me a moron when you're the only one who magically made up the hypothetical to convert 50% of cars to EVs? You have no self awareness whatsoever, you basically called yourself a moron without realizing it.
Because you are a moron.
You said - there are plenty of charging stations - that's not true.
You or others said that charging from home is "practical" - that also is a bald faced LIE.
Ergo, you're a moron.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:13 am to wutangfinancial
quote:I asked you a question, nothing more/nothing less. You took an honest question personally, while calling me sensitive.
Listen man, you need to stop being so sensitive
quote:
I'm happy for you that you love your car like it's your own kid.
Listen man, you need to stop being so sensitive.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:15 am to BiteMe2020
quote:You may want to ease up on calling someone a moron when reading is escaping you.
Because you are a moron.
quote:I said if there were 50% more EVs there wouldn't be 2 charging stations, there would be plenty more. Which part of that you disagree with?
You said - there are plenty of charging stations - that's not true.
Then you called me a moron stating that you can't add charging stations overnight, despite your hypothetical that added 50% more EVs overnight. Did you not do that?
You said there were 50% more EVs which isn't true!!! That's basically what your argument is, I hope you realize how absurd that is, right?
quote:So you're calling me a moron for something you admitted someone else said. That's exactly what you're doing, why? Why are you doing that?
You or others said that charging from home is "practical" - that also is a bald faced LIE.
Ergo, you're a moron.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 10:17 am
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:19 am to shel311
quote:
You may want to ease up on calling someone a moron when reading is escaping you.
So far you've assumed way too much about way too many people, have ignored practical and economic reality, and are charging ahead full steam with your same idiocy.
That's on you, not me.
But, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you're going to not only show me the errors of my ways, you're going to show me an affordable EV truck that can pull a trailer, charge at home in 20 minutes on a fricking 100', 110V extension cord, and provide the economic solution to providing the same for millions of people in a 200 mile radius of me that also have a lack of EV charging infrastructure.
Maybe I'm wrong, and you're willing to fully fund the cost of installing a charging station at my home for me. I'll await your $5,000 check in the mail. Let me know when it's on the way.
Facts matter. You seem to avoid facts like the plague.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 10:20 am
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:21 am to BiteMe2020
quote:
BiteMe2020
I've experienced this dumbassery for years at this point. It's not going to change. Just move on
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:22 am to wutangfinancial
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I've experienced this dumbassery for years at this point. It's not going to change. Just move on
I guess I'm a rookie. But that's great advice. You can lead a liberal to logic, but you can't make them think.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:22 am to BiteMe2020
quote:You said there were only 2 charges in town, and if there were 50% more EVs there would be long lines.
So far you've assumed way too much about way too many people, have ignored practical and economic reality, and are charging ahead full steam with your same idiocy.
That's on you, not me.
I replied stating if there were 50% more EVs there would be more charging stations.
You called me a moron for saying charging stations could be put up overnight. You pretended overnight 50% more cars would be EVs then called me a moron for stating there would also be more charing stations
Do you really not see where you whiffed on this one?
quote:I did, multiple times. See this post
But, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you're going to not only show me the errors of my ways
quote:So you stating if there were 50% more EVs there would not be a single additional charger added to the 2 in town...was that a fact?
Facts matter. You seem to avoid facts like the plague.
Name 1 fact I avoided....Go!
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:23 am to wutangfinancial
quote:Teslas don't hold value!
I've experienced this dumbassery for years at this point. It's not going to change. Just move on
Teslas aren't safe!
Tesla loses money on every single car they sell!!!
It's amazing that you still show up in these threads, you must have no shame in being wrong...all the time.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:24 am to BiteMe2020
quote:I've never voted democrat/liberal once in my life, so now what?
You can lead a liberal to logic, but you can't make them think.
Also, can you explain the logic in you adding 50% EVs overnight being cool but me being a moron for then saying there would also be more charging stations, please tell me the logic in that.
quote:I'm gonna add 50% more EVs in town overnight, but you're a moron for adding charging stations overnight!!!!
I guess I'm a rookie. But that's great advice
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 10:27 am
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:26 am to shel311
quote:
I'm gonna add 50% more EVs in town overnight, but you're a moron for adding charging stations overnight!!!!
It's your assertion that they're convenient and easy for everyone.
Time for you to address the facts on the ground and the economics.
Which you continually fail to do.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:26 am to AMS
quote:
Very dramatic. It takes like 20 mins for 80% charge
Wonder how many charges it would take on a trip to lets say, New Orleans to Orlando. And sooner or later all batteries need replacing. Know how much they cost?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:28 am to BiteMe2020
quote:Nope, I have literally said the exact opposite, that they are not practical for everyone. You're wrong, that's a you problem.
It's your assertion that they're convenient and easy for everyone.
quote:When are you going to address how wrong you were for magically adding 50% EVs to your town overnight no big deal but calling me a moron for then stating there would be more charging stations?
Time for you to address the facts on the ground and the economics.
Which you continually fail to do.
Or...are you just going to ignore and pretend that didn't happen instead of admitting you were wrong there?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:31 am to catnip
quote:Newer batteries can go up to 500k miles. Cost is I believe around $7k.
And sooner or later all batteries need replacing. Know how much they cost?
quote:4 stops for a total of 55 minutes...and that's pending the type of car you have. A more expensive Tesla with higher range would probably need either less stops or less time at stops.
Wonder how many charges it would take on a trip to lets say, New Orleans to Orlando
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 10:33 am
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:35 am to BiteMe2020
Look fanboi even Elon himself said the infastructure is not there and never will be for fully Electric. You argue valid points with nonsense rhetoric. Go plug your car in I'm sure it needs to be charged since you only charge it enough for 30 miles of range daily.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:47 am to burke985
Dude is so angry he's replying to the wrong person
Remember when you said I was lying and what I said was "BS" about charging at home in 45 minutes...sounds like you realized you were incorrect and now you're just lashing out because you made yourself look foolish
Another dude is pissy...weird, why do you bros get so mad about this topic and spout off?
quote:So when Elon said it, it's valid. But when I said the exact same thing word for word it's "nonsense rhetoric" is that what you're saying?
Look fanboi even Elon himself said the infastructure is not there and never will be for fully Electric. You argue valid points with nonsense rhetoric.
quote:
Go plug your car in I'm sure it needs to be charged since you only charge it enough for 30 miles of range daily.
Remember when you said I was lying and what I said was "BS" about charging at home in 45 minutes...sounds like you realized you were incorrect and now you're just lashing out because you made yourself look foolish
Another dude is pissy...weird, why do you bros get so mad about this topic and spout off?
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 10:49 am
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