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re: Tensions rise in Nevada-snipers,1st am zones,no fly zones used and in effect
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:46 am to Alahunter
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:46 am to Alahunter
quote:I'm not going to try to defend what happened at Waco.
Koresh was wounded with not much medical care. The Gov't didn't want to wait and 90 citizens, 22 of them children, died as a result.
I'm merely suggesting that the Bundy situation is not the Waco situation.
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Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:47 am to Salviati
quote:I agree.
I'm merely suggesting that the Bundy situation is not the Waco situation.
It is a terrible situation that may result in bloodshed, but it isn't comparable to Waco. At least not yet.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:48 am to Salviati
quote:
The federal government owns the land
The fed is the people. We established the fed govt. "We the people..."
quote:
Bundy's trespass on that parcel of land is not the only use for the land.
yeah the turtles use it. the same turtles that have been using it for 100s of years while the bundy's have been using it.
quote:
Bundy refused to even pay the rent.
No he hasn't. TO use your analogy, he's refused to pay rent to an absentee landlord. The fed promised one thing for the rent and has not lived up to their promise just like if your landlord doesn't fix your dishwasher or A/C. Bundy has offered to pay the local county as they actually offer services to him. The Fed has done nothing and that is what this protest is about. We should be offering something better to Bundy. We get more out of having a good working relationship with Bundy than doing what we are doing now.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:48 am to Salviati
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"its been going on for a while" does not seem like a very deep understanding of the full history.
No offense, but the fact that I don't type out a fricking report on the history of the situation and just choose to put that I know its has been going on a while could very well seem like I have an understanding of the situation too...
quote:
The clan was holed up with no apparent end or end game in sight.
So this is the same situation, there was no end game in sight, so the Feds need to move in heavily armed in order to accomplish an end?
It will be very interesting when these militias that claim they are coming begin arriving...
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:49 am to Salviati
Of course not, in that it's not a siege situation. But it could very easily become one. Massive amounts of armed federal agents on the scene. Growing number of folks that feel the Gov't is singling out their stance... In the video posted, did you see any armed citizens? Or did you see Fed agents, threatening dogs on them, tazers.. and look completely lost and inept on how to handle a situation?
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:51 am to Alahunter
quote:Link?
The Fed would have also made money, had they not started intimidating and trying to force people off leases.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:53 am to Lsut81
quote:
It will be very interesting when these militias that claim they are coming begin arriving...
Sorry, I haven't been following in a day or two.
Other militias are planning on helping out the Bundys? Please elaborate if you feel like it.
ETA: Nevermind. I'm looking it up.
This post was edited on 4/11/14 at 9:55 am
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:53 am to Salviati
So all the right wing militia types are rallying in one place...what a great opportunity for a drone strike. Man I hope Ted Nugent shows up.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:54 am to Salviati
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Link?
Income taxes. Oh and not having to provide welfare to a working family. Job Saved FTW!!
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:54 am to Salviati
Based of interviews. If we're going to start providing links to every statement made in the media, then I'd like links to the Feds' contracts with local ranchers, as well as links to their attempts to collect payments they claim.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:55 am to DosManos
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Other militias are planning on helping out the Bundys? Please elaborate if you feel like it.
Apparently... A few groups from Texas, OK, and I forgot where else have said they are on their way to the scene to support the Bundys.
shite will get really interesting if they arrive armed.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:56 am to Lsut81
Florida.. OP has all that in the article.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:57 am to Alahunter
quote:
Florida.. OP has all that in the article.
I'm not completely in the loop, but do they plan to show up armed? Or is this more of a peaceful display of force?
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:59 am to Lsut81
quote:
Or is this more of a peaceful display of force?
Hopefully this. Just create enough issue for the fed govt to say this isn't worth the hassle and change the laws for everyones benefit.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:00 am to C
In 25 words or less what is the issue?
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:02 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
Rancher's family uses Fed land since 1800's.
New Fed branch involved.
200 plus armed agents seize cattle.
New Fed branch involved.
200 plus armed agents seize cattle.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:02 am to C
quote:
Militia groups are rallying behind a rancher whose cattle are being seized by the federal government.
The Las Vegas Review-Journal reports that two militia members from Montana and one from Utah have arrived at Cliven Bundy’s ranch.
“We need to be the barrier between the oppressed and the tyrants,” Ryan Payne of the West Mountain Rangers told the Review-Journal. “Expect to see a band of soldiers.”
Payne said that militias from New Hampshire, Texas and Florida are likely to join and stand with Bundy and stay at his ranch.
“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,” Payne told the Review-Journal, adding that hundreds of militia members are expected.
LINK
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:03 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
Family ranches remote federal land 100+ years. Fedgov decide it needed to provide helpful oversight. Wasn't helpful. charged unpaid fees. taking cows for payment. protest.
This post was edited on 4/11/14 at 10:05 am
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:06 am to C
quote:So we can all go on military bases whenever we want? Can I catch a ride on an aircraft carrier next time I need to travel overseas? No need to pay to enter federal parks or monuments or museums? Does the same apply to state and city owned property?
The fed is the people. We established the fed govt. "We the people..."
quote:Yes he has. He has refused to pay rent for two decades.quote:No he hasn't.
Bundy refused to even pay the rent.
quote:Please show me where the feds offered to provide ANY services for the grazing fee.
TO use your analogy, he's refused to pay rent to an absentee landlord. The fed promised one thing for the rent and has not lived up to their promise just like if your landlord doesn't fix your dishwasher or A/C.
quote:Bundy's daughter now claims that Bundy offered to pay the county, but the county nevery corroborated that claim, the county does not own the property, and the feds never promised to provide services in return for the grazing fee.
Bundy has offered to pay the local county as they actually offer services to him. The Fed has done nothing and that is what this protest is about.
quote:There was a fee to use the property in 1993. Bundy refused to pay it. Bundy has been obstinant and recalcitrant for two decades. He destroyed any potential for a "good working relationship" a long time ago.
We should be offering something better to Bundy. We get more out of having a good working relationship with Bundy than doing what we are doing now.
And what "more" do "we" get out of a good working relationship with Bundy. Do "we" get to let Bundy use the land for free? Because that's the only deal he'll accept.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:09 am to Alahunter
quote:
Rancher's family uses Fed land since 1800's.
Not paying the "rent"
New Fed branch involved.
Still not paying "rent"
200 plus armed agents seize cattle.
won't pay "Rent"
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