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re: Tax on unrealized capital gains...a primer

Posted on 8/26/24 at 7:06 am to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77917 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 7:06 am to
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So ignore part of it and get scared about the other part?
Are you obtuse?
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
7166 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 7:07 am to
If it happened I would hope the Supreme Court would kill it.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15924 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 7:07 am to
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Imagine your house. You bought it for $250k and it's now worth $500k. So, you have an unrealized gain of $250k. Let's say the tax is 20%, so you suddenly have to stroke a check for $50k.



Happening on a local level all the time and it’s wrong.
Doing it on a national level would be devastating
Posted by OutOfNames
Member since Dec 2019
1029 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 7:11 am to
That's the situation I'm in. They better gas up them F15s.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15924 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 7:14 am to
Where is this proposal exhibited so I can read exactly what they’re proposing?

Posted by icheerforgeorgia
Member since Nov 2011
2010 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 7:43 am to
You should educate yourself on what the actual proposal is rather than indulging in paranoid fantasy
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295241 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 7:45 am to
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You should educate yourself on what the actual proposal is


99% of the people who say this have no clue what the proposal is about.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125205 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 7:50 am to
frick off, lying fig.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32302 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 7:59 am to
Ok, pal. Whatever you say
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 8:03 am to
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Constitutional Amendment allowing it. The 16th does not allow for any exception to this other than derived income, in other words: "realized gains".


Have we started following the Constitution again?

I get what you are saying but all it would take is one year and it would ruin most people financially in this country...
Posted by Go Cat Go
East of Here
Member since Oct 2017
103 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 8:17 am to
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You’ll own nothing and be happy


This seems to be the end goal.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 8:59 am to
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In three more years, the government will have completely consumed the entire built in equity of your house and they'll be there in year 6.

frick these people.


And there will be entire armed army of FBI just waiting for you to not be able to pay it.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 9:57 am to
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Hi I’m William DeVane and this is why I buy gold and silver from Rosland Capital.

That fricking commercial will stick with me every time I consider buying gold or silver until I’m dead. It’s up there with JG Wentworth
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9163 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 10:39 am to
Its a tax that makes you reliant on the government because at a point you can't afford your house. Not only that it's going to force inflation to skyrocket, making those values go higher.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20661 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 10:41 am to
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Imagine your house. You bought it for $250k and it's now worth $500k. So, you have an unrealized gain of $250k. Let's say the tax is 20%, so you suddenly have to stroke a check for $50k.

Yeah, what about next year when your unrealized gain is STILL $250k?

Another $50k?

Once you pay the tax on it, wouldn't that mean the gain has now been realized and your basis would now be at $500k?
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2140 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 10:42 am to
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Where is this document?


Harris has no formal written explanation of her tax initiatives, but supports Biden’s 2025 tax Initiatives that have been public for at least two months.

Tax foundation


If the point is to make billionaires pay appropriate taxes, well then just fix the current tax models. They are smarter than your tax plan, and quicker than bureaucracy. They will adapt to this new policy quicker than the ink is dry, not that it will ever happen. If a 100k household is paying 16% federal taxes after deductions so should billionaires.

If the intent is to stop them from taking out loans on their unrealized gains then just tax the loans, Like he would on an early withdrawal from 401(k). Not that I believe in that, just an example of something that can be done. The tax is the risk of getting over leveraged just like someone with a couple HELOCs



This post was edited on 8/26/24 at 10:48 am
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20661 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 10:42 am to
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Better question, what if it goes down? Does the government give me a check for $50k for an unrealized loss? Somehow I doubt it.

I speculate it would be an offset against unrealized gains, and if you have more losses then gains you would be able to carry them forward to future years to offset against future gains?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112299 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 3:41 pm to
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Once you pay the tax on it, wouldn't that mean the gain has now been realized and your basis would now be at $500k?


It SHOULD, but I doubt it.
Posted by SuwMwf
Member since Jul 2012
1052 posts
Posted on 8/26/24 at 3:48 pm to
Ignoring the 100 million dollar rule..wouldn’t it just benefit the government to take measures to make sure everyone’s homes went up in value… constantly? What about when foreign entities drive up values higher due to supply and demand? Like printing themselves even more money than they already take. Bonkers!
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