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re: Tariff war stalls $1 billion Chinese paper plant in Arkansas

Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:05 am to
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 8:05 am to
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They still have not bought them but it does look like they will have too some time. In the meantime US farmers wait to sell them behind the Brazilians and Argentinas.


Dude, do you NOT understand that there is only a certain quantity of soybeans produced world wide each year? Why can you NOT understand that if China buys from South America (which does not produce enough in a year for China alone) that the REST OF THE WORLD is going to have to buy U.S. Soybeans....

The entire difference between the U.S. and China is China is putting tariffs on food stuffs and natural resources while we are putting them on products... There is only so much food stuffs and natural resources available EACH YEAR...

Like I said, idiot.
Posted by BigAppleBucky
New York
Member since Jan 2014
1807 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:06 am to
Trump's tariffs Force last major US assembler of TVs to shut down

That factory was for assembly of TVs using imported parts. No TV parts have been made in the USA in some years. There are also two other assembly plants elsewhere in the country, but they were smaller.

I would have put major in quotes since the jobs lost are fewer than 200. Though the pain they suffer is major.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98115 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:14 am to
Every single article you post ends up being fake news

Have you not realized that yet
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:16 am to
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There are also two other assembly plants elsewhere in the country, but they were smaller.



WTF? So there are other plants still assembling TVs in the country? What do they employ 175?

You frickers grasp at so many damn straws it is just pathetic...
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:17 am to
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Y'all need to shut the frick about IB Freeman about being a resistance clown and Never Trumper.

He has more intelligence and knowledge about policy in his hand than you have in your entire brain.


No one doubts that he is knowledgeable. The problem is that he spams the board, believes he is above actually articulating arguments with those he believes arent knowledgeable and lobs insults at those who call him out.

He clearly is a nevertrumper. He leads almost every thread with "you trumpkins"
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:27 am to
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Or maybe his complaints are legitimate and everyone else is stupid?


I am going with this.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:52 am to
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Dude, do you NOT understand that there is only a certain quantity of soybeans produced world wide each year?


Mr. Dude to you.

I understand completely.

Those declaring that China might have to buy some US soybeans a victory for Trump do not understand this.

It is simple--no Chinese processor of soybeans will buy tariffed US soybeans so long as they are more expensive to them. Somebody else will but the premise that this is some win is just wrong.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117587 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:54 am to
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:55 am to
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s he is above actually articulating arguments with those he believes arent knowledgeable and lobs insults at those who call him out.


perhaps you can give us a scoreboard on the insults hurled at IB and those coming at IB.

While you are at it how about counting the number of substantive post you have made on the the subject of tariffs compared to IB. I am trying my best to ignore post from those I believe aren't knowledgeable but folks like you make it hard.

I will try harder.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90620 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:56 am to
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It is simple--no Chinese processor of soybeans will buy tariffed US soybeans so long as they are more expensive to them. Somebody else will but the premise that this is some win is just wrong.
Man the stupid just never fricking ends with you.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:57 am to
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Somebody else will but the premise that this is some win is just wrong.


Wait, so you are admitting that U.S. soybeans will be bought by someone else? Then what in the frick are you complaining about and exactly who gets hurt? The answer is NO ONE.

Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:57 am to
If the one trick is smaller government and individual freedom and anti corruption I suppose you are right Zach.

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98115 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 9:58 am to
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If the one trick is smaller government and individual freedom and anti corruption I suppose you are right Zach.



You are not any of these
Stop crying and go make more money
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6402 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:01 am to
Arkadelphia's troubles run deeper than tariffs. Quite literally the town has no support to get new business in from the older generation. The churches bought all the towns liquor licenses went the county went west. The town also denies nearly every attempt to modernize the roads in and out.

They have 2 universities and are stuck exactly between major population centers 1.5 hours by interstate on either north or south and shoot down any measure that would allow graduates to be able to use their degrees locally.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 10:06 am
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
5082 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:06 am to
Breaking news
Arkansas people thank President Trump for saving them from the stench of another pulp mill. Would rather commute to work at American owned mill in the next town over.
Glad their clothes, cars and homes are saved from the toxic stench.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:07 am to
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Wait, so you are admitting that U.S. soybeans will be bought by someone else?


I have never said otherwise.

I simply discuss soybeans because some of the simpletons here think the fact that some soybeans may be sold to China in spite of the Chinese tariffs is some kind of win.

Surely nobody is so dumb to think the Chinese will buy higher priced US soybeans just because.

It seems soybeans will be in tight supply from South American markets due to drought and the Chinese processor may end up having to pay the tariff on some US beans when they run out of South America sources.

Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:09 am to
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Chinese processor may end up having to pay the tariff on some US beans when they run out of South America sources.




LMAO and in any other world BUT yours, that is considered a WIN... Maybe its just you don't know what winning looks like?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:14 am to
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If the one trick is smaller government and individual freedom and anti corruption I suppose you are right Zach.


You are not any of these


I am all of these and always have been. Because I am calling out your boy on his misguided policy is completely consistent with my beliefs in smaller government, individual freedom and ending corruption.

BTW Big government is inherently corrupt and EVERYBODY most particularly Trumpkins should be outraged at Wilbur Ross's obvious protections of US Steel and Nucor in the exclusion hearings. No company yet that has asked for an exclusion that either of those companies objected too has gotten a tariff exclusion. That is out and out government corruption.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:17 am to
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in any other world BUT yours, that is considered a WIN.


Explain that to me. How is that a win??

The largest soybean market in the world buys a vast majority of their soybeans from somebody else and only buys from you when the other suppliers are out of inventory is a win???
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 10:17 am to
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Every single article you post ends up being fake news



Point to one please.
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