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Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:08 am to RATeamWannabe
Why???? Tell me where I’m wrong… it’s our objective to get any Americans out of that country and be done with it…… it’s a simple fact. What does country do for us in any capacity???? Nothing…. It’s not our job to police the world… we have enough problems here in our homeland….
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:09 am to dukke v
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Dude…. I’m gonna tell you again… if you want to get Americans out you have to bomb the palace and the Taliban will run… THEN get our people out and let the rest of that nation fend for themselves….
Your shtick is getting really old
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:11 am to VolsOut4Harambe
I’m right though. Take it or leave it….
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:11 am to Conman23
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:13 am to RATeamWannabe
Reporter asks Press Secretary Butthead if he was deliberately being vague over saying “several thousand Americans have been evacuated”: I’m just going to leave it at that.
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:15 am to VolsOut4Harambe
This is a prertty good write up on China's involvement and interest in the region:
The Spectator - china's Great Game in Afghanistan
And it goes on with a really good breakdown of their position.
The Spectator - china's Great Game in Afghanistan
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China greeted America's chaotic retreat from Afghanistan with a mixture of glee and trepidation. Its well-oiled propaganda machine has revelled in the fall of Kabul, but Beijing is fretting over the threat of instability on its doorstep – and there is a very real possibility that China will become next power sucked into the ‘graveyard of empires’.
The humbling of the United States in Afghanistan fits nicely into the Chinese narrative of American decline, but Beijing has also used the withdrawal to pile pressure on Taiwan, warning the self-governing democratic island that Washington is an unreliable ally. ‘Afghanistan today, Taiwan tomorrow,’ ran a headline in the Global Times, a communist party tabloid. ‘US will abandon Taiwan in a crisis given its tarnished credibility.’
The newspaper’s editor also shared photographs taken by China’s ambassador in Kabul of China’s tranquil embassy. The carefully crafted images of calm amid the chaos were somewhat undermined though by a hastily arranged joint ‘anti-terrorism exercise’ in neighbouring Tajikistan, which shares an 835-mile border with Afghanistan. Chinese and Tajik forces took to the hills outside the capital Dushanbe, while in a letter to his Tajik counterpart China’s minster of public security said, ‘The current international situation is changing and the regional counterterrorism situation is not optimistic.’
And it goes on with a really good breakdown of their position.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:15 am to OMLandshark
Most on here would rather cut me down instead of looking at how much of a shot show this really is……..
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:16 am to dukke v
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Most on here would rather cut me down instead of looking at how much of a shot show this really is……..
We've got 400 pages of looking at how much of a shite show this is, moron
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:19 am to dukke v
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Most on here would rather cut me down instead of looking at how much of a shot show this really is……..
Most are keenly aware of what a disaster this is.
Dropping bombs, however, is not the answer, neither is sitting back and letting the damn Taliban dictate terms like Biden seems content to do.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:20 am to dukke v
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if you want to get Americans out you have to bomb the palace and the Taliban will run
These people arent running from a fight. If we just start hurling bombs in the place, we may sentence the rest of our people to death.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:21 am to dukke v
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Most on here would rather cut me down instead of looking at how much of a shot show this really is……..
Yours is a heavy idiot cross to bear
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:23 am to sugar71
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More help. More guns! Afghans were given 20 years of training , $80 billion dollars in weapons , Nato troops fought with them, etc..... and they gave no resistance to the Taliban after withdrawal. They'd prefer chasing planes & hanging onto fuselages than facing the Taliban.
Assistance was served up on a silver platter & Afghans squandered it.
Meh, we taught them how to fight relying heavily in air support like we fight. Our guys get pinned down or in trouble, they don't fight their way out. They call in a gun run with an A10 or drop some bombs from an F18. We trained them to rely on air support. Then took away all air support.
I agree, they probably could have put up a little more resistance than they did, but the doctrine we trained them under is useless with no air cover. They were lost.
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 11:24 am
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:24 am to upgrayedd
Per the Guardian:
This President is definitely a follower not a leader.
This President is definitely a follower not a leader.
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The defence department spokesman, John Kirby, has said the US military has in one case helicoptered US citizens into Kabul airport and has the capability to carry out further extraction operations of US nationals, by air and road.
The announcement followed criticism of defence secretary Lloyd Austin’s statement last week that the US military would not go beyond the airport perimeter, at a time when British special forces had gone out into the city to fetch UK nationals.
Kirby said the US was doing similar things but would not go into details for security reasons.
“We do have the ability to help when we can and where we can to help Americans move towards the gates, and we’re not going to talk about the details of each and every one of those, but we do have those capabilities,” Kirby said.
“You mentioned that the Brits who want to go out - we are doing it as well. We are going out as needed, and helping Americans get into the field.”
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:27 am to dukke v
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you have to bomb the palace
There may be like 3 guys at the Afghan presidential palace. All the fighters are at the airport and scattered through the rest of the country pulling "security".
Bombing the palace is a waste of good munitions and would just get Americans killed immediately in retaliation.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:27 am to dukke v
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Dude…. I’m gonna tell you again
and we are gonna tell you again - your a fricking idiot.
but hey, for someone that doesn't need attention - you sure like to attention whore it up.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:27 am to UASports23
Italians are getting beat.
Source: The Guardian
Source: The Guardian
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Dozens of Afghan women and activists working for the Italian charity Pangea were beaten by the Taliban last weekend, Pangea said.
“Some women of Pangea have been beaten by the Taliban,” Pangea said in a statement. “Seeing pictures of their bruises was heart-breaking.”
Pangea, which has helped tens of thousands of Afghan women become self-supporting in the last 20 years, said it is working non-stop to help its Kabul workers and their families to reach the airport.
“They have been difficult days,” the charity added.
The women on the Pangea staff and their families have been trapped in the crowd for hours, without water, and with their very young children in their arms.
Pangea said the children had “witnessed scenes of unprecedented violence and they are very afraid”.
The women had drawn a “P” on their wrist in order to be recognised by the Italian soldiers who are flying out Italian diplomats and the families of their Afghan assistants at risk of Taliban reprisal.
A plane carrying over 200 Afghan refugees who helped Italy’s mission in the country has landed in Rome on Monday, authorities said, as 400 more are expected to arrive during the day.
To date, Rome has evacuated about 2.500 Afghans. Italy’s government said it will “protect the Afghan citizens who helped us in our mission”.
The foreign minister, Luigi Di Maio, stressed the importance of a G7 meeting and added that this would also involve Russia, China and India, who, according to the foreign ministry, “represent a crucial point in the overall strategy”.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:29 am to UASports23
A DoD memo released this morning about the firefight stated "No Coalition troops were wounded or killed." and left it at that.
That's a marked separation between "us" and "them", being that it has been widely reported that one ANA soldier was killed and three others were wounded. Interesting.
That's a marked separation between "us" and "them", being that it has been widely reported that one ANA soldier was killed and three others were wounded. Interesting.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:30 am to UASports23
bravo to the fricking Italians - good on them for doing what's right
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:31 am to UASports23
If you are keeping track... Germany/France/UK has asked for the US to extend the deadline. In addition, I find it interesting that the UK publicly said if the US leaves we won't be able to sustain a presence.
Source: The Guardian
Source: The Guardian
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The French foreign minister has said France needs more time to complete evacuations from Afghanistan and called on the US to extend its current deadline for withdrawing troops on 31 August.
“We are concerned about the August 31 deadline set by the United States. More time is needed to complete the current operations,” Jean-Yves Le Drian said, according to a French pool reporter accompanying the minister to the United Arab Emirates.
At an emergency G7 meeting on Tuesday, Boris Johnson is expected to request for Joe Biden to extend the deadline in order to allow more evacuation flights to take place.
Britain’s defence secretary, Ben Wallace, has already admitted UK forces won’t be able to maintain a presence at Kabul airport once the US withdraws.
But the Taliban have said they would not extend the deadline for western forces to leave Afghanistan and any extension would be a “clear violation” of the Doha agreement.
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