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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:45 pm to
Can we get an updated number on Americans citizens(not military), still in Afghanistan? The 10,000 number was thrown around way before this thread was even sticky’d, and before the Taliban even controlled the country.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:45 pm to
Representative John Garamendi (D, CA) on CNN earlier:

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Rep. Garamendi: “We’re going to send American troops in the heart and into the streets of Kabul to extract people? It makes no sense whatsoever. We do control the airport. We’re going to do the very best we can and the people in Kabul and other parts of the country are going to have to do the very best they can to get there. There is no way the American military should use military force to go to someone’s house or some building somewhere to extract people. That will create a very significant problem and a very significant loss of life on both sides… To provide safe passage from parts of a huge city? No way—not sensible.”
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 6:47 pm
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:47 pm to
Also, I remember reading on here a month ago that the US was telling all American citizens to get out. Weeks before the Taliban even began to take over the country. People act like all of this happened over night. It absolutely didn’t. There was an 18 month get out plan, with the original agreement and deadline being May 1.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:48 pm to
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Can we get an updated number on Americans citizens(not military), still in Afghanistan? The 10,000 number was thrown around way before this thread was even sticky’d, and before the Taliban even controlled the country.

No one knows. The State Department doesn't even have a fricking clue. And this isn't me being dramatic. No. One. Knows.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 6:48 pm
Posted by UASports23
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:49 pm to
Military Beat Writer @ WaPo

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Biden wanted the military to straight-up go to zero troops. That changed when things started deteriorating and led to the hodge-podge of force assigned for embassy and airport security last month, officials say.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:49 pm to
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We wouldn’t bomb anything until after we left. Of course, if you leave US citizens behind, bombing anything will just expedite their public execution. I wouldn’t put it past Senile Joe to do it trying to reestablish himself as tough after we finally get out.

Your really have to wonder what the negotiations look like behind the curtain. We only see what we are allowed to see and im sure its crafted. Im sure there are threats like this flying back and forth.

Makes you wish we had a guy that wrote "The Art of the Deal"
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:50 pm to
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Sasha Ingber
@SashaIngber

Today @PentagonPresSec said Taliban isn't obstructing Americans from getting to Kabul airport. A source working the evacuation tells me fighters ARE impeding Americans' travel at checkpoints. And they're being turned away from airport gates, by foreign forces. It's unclear why.


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I'm also told the Taliban killed 9 people near the airport.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:50 pm to
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Can we get an updated number on Americans citizens(not military), still in Afghanistan? The 10,000 number was thrown around way before this thread was even sticky’d, and before the Taliban even controlled the country.


We could if the State Department was able to provide the numbers. They’ve admitted they have no idea how many Americans are there.
Posted by UASports23
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:50 pm to
If this is true...uh oh.

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Hearing several reports that a large number (over a thousand) mostly Helmandi and some Kandahari Talibs are moving up to Kabul to assume the internal security of Kabul.


Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:51 pm to
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Biden wanted the military to straight-up go to zero troops. That changed when things started deteriorating and led to the hodge-podge of force assigned for embassy and airport security last month, officials say.

This, in light of all the reports that have come out emphatically stating that he was made aware of the distinct possibility we are seeing.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7980 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:51 pm to
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Rep. Garamendi: “We’re going to send American troops in the heart and into the streets of Kabul to extract people? It makes no sense whatsoever

Exactly the kind of people that get us into these situations and cant get us out. POS
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:52 pm to
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Also, I remember reading on here a month ago that the US was telling all American citizens to get out
I mean Biden was on national tv telling the world under no circumstances would the US be evacuating people from the embassy in helicopter...

Then it was stay away from the airport because it's too dangerous...

Now it's get to the airport by Aug 31st or else, and oh yeah you're on your own getting here because it's still too dangerous for us to get you.

I am old enough to remember a time when "no man left behind" was still a thing, sadly.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:52 pm to
Unless they are of Middle Eastern origin, I haven’t seen any photos of Americans trying to get out. And haven’t even heard of any anecdotal cases outside of the British guy that went there for fun. Are there really any Americans left there? If so, it’s absolutely not “thousands” much less the weeks old “ten thousand” number
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:52 pm to
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If this is true...uh oh.

It is true. I posted an article talking about it this AM.

It goes along with what the SAS operatives were told yesterday.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:53 pm to
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Hearing several reports that a large number (over a thousand) mostly Helmandi and some Kandahari Talibs are moving up to Kabul to assume the internal security of Kabul.

I don’t know what this means.
Posted by UASports23
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:53 pm to
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John Raymond Garamendi (/?gær?'m?ndi/; born January 24, 1945) is an American businessman, politician, and member of the Democratic Party who has represented areas of Northern California between San Francisco and Sacramento, including the cities of Fairfield and Suisun City, in the United States House of Representatives since November 2009.


Tells ya everything ya need to know.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21790 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:53 pm to
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And they're being turned away from airport gates, by foreign forces. It's unclear why.


Because hostages are worth way more when you still have them, rather than letting them walk away.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75837 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:54 pm to
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Unless they are of Middle Eastern origin, I haven’t seen any photos of Americans trying to get out. And haven’t even heard of any anecdotal cases outside of the British guy that went there for fun. Are there really any Americans left there? If so, it’s absolutely not “thousands” much less the weeks old “ten thousand” number

You may want to brush up on what the people running this shitshow are saying.

I've posted numerous reports and accounts over the past few days.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75837 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:55 pm to
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I don’t know what this means.

They are hardline Taliban linked directly to Al Qaeda. Most, or all, are foreigners. The group currently over "security" is also such a group.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46422 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 6:55 pm to
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It is true. I posted an article talking about it this AM.

It goes along with what the SAS operatives were told yesterday.


Is this al Qaeda? Just wondering how we know they are al Qaeda, although I do remember “foreign fighters” being used to describe them before.
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