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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:57 am to
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
11369 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:57 am to
quote:

Seeing all those desperate people trying to get on a plane is sad. I can’t imagine what they are thinking about in fear.


Yep, you don't rush and fight to get a spot SITTING ON THE WING OF A PLANE, unless the situation is pretty dire.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:58 am to
I can’t believe how badly we botched this roll off. Some of own allies are just as screwed as we are.

I am hopeful that the people at the airport might be okay for now. It doesn’t look good, but I think their fate might be a little better than those who are still sheltering in place.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:59 am to
So we were just supposed to leave the Afghan Army a supply of slingshots? ok.

I'm not saying they used the stuff well. Or even at all in many cases. However, that equipment is Afghan.

Some planes shown on the tarmac earlier clearly had Afghan Air force insignia on them and people were screaming "WHY DID WE LEAVE THOSE!?!?!?"

The responses above are saying we should not have supplied them with anything at all.
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
9393 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:00 am to
The US isn't the only country right now dealing with what's happening there. Count the UK as among the other nations there....

LINK

"The government has been silent as Afghanistan collapses, which will have ramifications in the UK."

He said it was a "very sad day" and "our thoughts are with the Afghan people". The government's priority "must be to evacuate British personnel and support staff", he added.


He said they agreed "it is critical that the international community is united in telling the Taliban that the violence must end and human rights must be protected".
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42620 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:00 am to
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The responses above are saying we should not have supplied them with anything at all.
Judging by the way they fought and the resistance the provided the taliban taking back the country, we probably shouldn’t have
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47395 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:00 am to
quote:

So we were just supposed to leave the Afghan Army a supply of slingshots? ok.


That would've been a better plan.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42620 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:01 am to
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He said it was a "very sad day" and "our thoughts are with the Afghan people".


T’s & P’s y’all. T’s & P’s
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54994 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:01 am to
quote:

So we were just supposed to leave the Afghan Army a supply of slingshots? ok.

I'm not saying they used the stuff well. Or even at all in many cases. However, that equipment is Afghan.

Some planes shown on the tarmac earlier clearly had Afghan Air force insignia on them and people were screaming "WHY DID WE LEAVE THOSE!?!?!?"

The responses above are saying we should not have supplied them with anything at all.


I don't agree that we take/destroy THEIR stuff. But our Intel over the past few months HAD to have shown that many of the afghan fighters were deserting/surrendering to the Taliban. Our government has lied to us about the pull out and expectations.

We should have planned better. That's all.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42620 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:02 am to
quote:

He said they agreed "it is critical that the international community is united in telling the Taliban that the violence must end and human rights must be protected".


We did. Then progressivism told us we were colonizers and had to leave
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33941 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:03 am to
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@johnrobb

There are also, from reports, armed Taliban inside the airport area.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134965 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:03 am to
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What in the actual frick is this?



This is peak cringe
Posted by toesinthesand
One Particular Harbour
Member since Dec 2011
237 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:04 am to
Designed by MISSterious

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:05 am to
quote:

I don't agree that we take/destroy THEIR stuff. But our Intel over the past few months HAD to have shown that many of the afghan fighters were deserting/surrendering to the Taliban. Our government has lied to us about the pull out and expectations.

We should have planned better. That's all.



Absolutely. But that is a different subject.

The embassy should have started clearing out weeks ago as the intel told them this would happen. Instead everyone waits until there is a massive crisis.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 7:15 am
Posted by toesinthesand
One Particular Harbour
Member since Dec 2011
237 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:08 am to
And we wonder why the taliban is no longer afraid of the US
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4341 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:09 am to
quote:


The 300k strong Afghan Army needed stuff.


read my post again. My comment was tongue in cheek. Check the spelling if you missed it.

That being said, I have never served so I am talking a little bit out of school.

But...that 300k army rolled over like a high school slut after 2 glasses of Boone's Farm.

They want the Taliban....we got fooled for a couple of decades. I am sure there are a lot of good folks there but it is on their head now. Deuces....


\ETA: spelling.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 7:13 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26617 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:10 am to
I'm all for leaving Afganistan, but it's like our own government didn't take anything about the Taliban seriously after 20 fricking years of being there.

The heroes of the day are the men and women on the ground and in those planes that helped evacuate people to safety. I'm still in awe at people who can stay focused on their mission in absolute chaos like that.

frick Biden and the politicians whose poor planning and cavalier attitude towards the Taliban put innocent lives in harms way.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26617 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:11 am to
quote:

Yep, you don't rush and fight to get a spot SITTING ON THE WING OF A PLANE, unless the situation is pretty dire.



I saw the videos and I honestly can't even imagine how bad it would be to try and hitch a ride on the outside of a military transport jet.

Reports of one of the USAF C-17s having 800+ people onboard are probably true. Which is astounding.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9251 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:11 am to
It does seem sort of odd that the videos are all relatively young men....no women and children
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26617 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:12 am to
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Many do not have or use twitter. The world needs to see what is happening good bad or indifferent.



Unfortunately I think Twitter is what will make this seem and feel as bad as Vietnam.

I'm talking specifically about the westerners that haven't made it to the airport and are trying to hide among the population.
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
5154 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:13 am to
Well they don't need those planes any more do they?
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