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re: Surrogate Mother Fighting to Save Baby with Treatable Heart Condition
Posted on 8/2/26 at 12:50 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Posted on 8/2/26 at 12:50 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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If you’d like to go back to 1000BC when every thing was “natural,” be my guest. Scorching hot take though.
1 Honor the physician because of necessity, and because the Most High created him.
2 For all healing is from God, and so he will receive gifts from the King.
3 The expertise of the physician will lift up his head, and in the sight of great men, he will be praised.
4 The Most High has created medicines from the earth, and a prudent man will not abhor them.
5 Was not bitter water made sweet with wood?
6 The benefits of these things is recognized by men, and the Most High has given this knowledge to men, so that he may be honored in his wonders.
7 By these things, he will cure or mitigate their suffering, and the pharmacist will make soothing ointments, and he will form healing medicines, and there will be no end to his works.
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:07 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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invoked an “abortion on demand” clause in their surrogacy contract and ordered West to terminate the pregnancy.
Incoming state law banning these clauses in surrogacy contracts.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:16 pm to SallysHuman
Wonder why the resident feminists aren’t in here. Makes you wonder
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:25 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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If you’d like to go back to 1000BC when every thing was “natural,” be my guest. Scorching hot take though.
I think there is a very clear distinction between the preservation of life versus the creation or destruction of life.
That might be just me though.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:36 pm to Night Vision
Surrogacy should be banned outright.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:42 pm to DesScorp
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Surrogacy should be banned outright.
I agree.
I think cost barriers need to be greatly lessened in order to make adoption of in-country children more viable, too.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 2:54 pm to Night Vision
Never heard of anyone downplay hypoplastic left heart
Posted on 8/2/26 at 3:44 pm to SallysHuman
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I think there is a very clear distinction between the preservation of life versus the creation or destruction of life.
No, you are creating a completely arbitrary distinction.
So God would help man find a way to treat a fatal heart defect through pediatric cardiothoracic surgery, but helping women with defects such as uterine hypoplasia be able to have their own genetic children is a bridge too far. Just makes no sense.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 4:09 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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No, you are creating a completely arbitrary distinction.
Not really. Preservation is a completely different ballgame than creation and destruction.
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but helping women with defects such as uterine hypoplasia be able to have their own genetic children is a bridge too far.
What woman is owed, by God or medicine, a genetic child of her own?
It’s interesting to see you continue in the God angle… I might be mistaken but I didn’t take you for a believer.
It is also interesting that you pick the one example that you think fits your “what would God want” line of questioning.., when we both know full well that it is not the only use of surrogacy.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 4:47 pm to SallysHuman
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What woman is owed, by God or medicine, a genetic child of her own?
If this is your logic, who is owed anything? Including a functional left ventricle.
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It’s interesting to see you continue in the God angle… I might be mistaken but I didn’t take you for a believer.
I am a believer. And I think giving women the ability to have their own genetic children through modern medicine isn’t a bad thing.
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It is also interesting that you pick the one example that you think fits your “what would God want” line of questioning.., when we both know full well that it is not the only use of surrogacy.
Just bc people “miss-use” something doesn’t mean that thing in and of itself is bad. I’m not thinking about Betty who doesn’t want to carry a child bc she wants to keep her abs.
This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 8/2/26 at 5:03 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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If this is your logic, who is owed anything? Including a functional left ventricle.
I’ll type slower.
Preservation of an existing life is different than the creation or destruction of life. The first is being a good steward, as God himself calls us to do.. The latter is playing God.
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Just bc people “miss-use” something doesn’t mean that thing in and of itself is bad.
True. I find the entire idea wrong, not situationally wrong due to misuse, but categorically wrong.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 7:54 pm to SallysHuman
It’s a sick reality, but a lot of doctors truly are obsessed with being able to play god.
The idea of simply preserving life isn’t nearly enough. The concept of extraordinary efforts to create life is much more rewarding to them…and ending lives in that pursuit feeds the same obsession.
The idea of simply preserving life isn’t nearly enough. The concept of extraordinary efforts to create life is much more rewarding to them…and ending lives in that pursuit feeds the same obsession.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 9:00 pm to Night Vision
The whole surrogate thing blows my mind. Are the biological parents paying for all the prenatal care for the surrogate mother/child out of pocket? Labor and delivery too? I can’t imagine the health insurance of either party wants any part of this.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:52 pm to Planetarium
Surrogacy is evil but at least the surrogate mother has some moral compass. The other couple is demonic
Posted on 8/3/26 at 6:57 am to shutterspeed
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Her body, their choice.
So funny.
Women just rent themselves out these days.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:14 am to Night Vision
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This post was edited on 8/4/26 at 9:07 am
Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:23 am to Night Vision
A.B. and C.D. sound E.V. and I.L.
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