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re: Surprised to see Iran is showing plenty of missile capability?

Posted on 4/7/26 at 6:42 am to
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 6:42 am to
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If you compare Iran's current capacity, output, and success rate, they are doing better now than they were on the 3rd day of the war (after the initial counter offensive was launched).


C,mon, mane. Sometimes it's best to just not say anything at all.

Every launch Iran activates, I'd be willing to bet they lose yet another launch pad. They are decimated. I mean, we are flying frickin Apaches (that's a HELICOPTER...fairly slow moving) and A-10s over Tehran. You don't do that if you feel there's a significant chance you'll be shot down.

Of course there's always SOME risk. But they're decimated.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
5021 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 6:46 am to
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Yeah, that was a benefit to the US.


Which benefit(s)? How do you think sending billions of dollars and weapons to Ukraine to fight Russia by proxy has benefitted us?

I'm not even saying it didn't benefit us. I'm merely asking YOU how YOU think it did.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12328 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 6:50 am to
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That was done before hostilities began, and in conjunction with acknowledgments that military strikes on Iran from those bases would not occur. Those announcements were openly publicized, to emphasize that any targeting of bases was a targeting of their Middle East neighbors, not of the US military.


Hmm. I had not seen that they were moved before hostilities began. Where did you see that?

The articles I saw pointed to damaged bases as the reason.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
46995 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 6:51 am to
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C,mon, mane. Sometimes it's best to just not say anything at all.

Every launch Iran activates, I'd be willing to bet they lose yet another launch pad. They are decimated. I mean, we are flying frickin Apaches (that's a HELICOPTER...fairly slow moving) and A-10s over Tehran. You don't do that if you feel there's a significant chance you'll be shot down.

Of course there's always SOME risk. But they're decimated.


I am not trying to post propaganda. The US having near-complete air superiority doesn't have much to do with Iran's ballistic missile capability and drone warfare.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23333 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 6:54 am to
So we all agree China will and is currently using Iran as a proxy against the west?

Can we also agree that absent regime change they can make up any losses Iran suffers militarily in this war as far as missile, arms or planes almost overnight the moment it ends? If not why do you believe otherwise?

If you agree that is the case what is the point of blowing up their missiles or any of our other stated goals outside of elimination of nuclear facilities if they can be replaced as soon as we leave?
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12328 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 6:55 am to
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I'm not even saying it didn't benefit us. I'm merely asking YOU how YOU think it did.


Why are YOU asking?

Do YOU believe it benefitted the US?
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27776 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:08 am to
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Don't their launch crews have a 50% mortality rate?
But only for the lucky ones that are still alive.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 7:09 am
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12328 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:14 am to
I agree that absent regime change, China will re-supply Iran.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10088 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:16 am to
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Surprised to see Iran is showing plenty of missile capability?


Now do Ukraine
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12328 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:18 am to
I did. Just read the thread. Then articulate what position it is you are taking.

Is it to justify China taking out US bases via Iran?
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10088 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:48 am to
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Then articulate what position it is you are taking.


We have worthy assets in the Middle East, countries we do business with. Iran threatens those, and attacks those, so the cause to stop that is just, and we fight a proxy war to stop it, even though we have to print the money to do it, which is a tax increase that people don’t vote for.

We don’t have the same assets in Ukraine, even though it too is a proxy war. We can’t afford it, the cause is not just - Europe should be funding it - and it’s being funded so select US companies make more money and send it back to pols who support it.

Both are proxy wars. In a limited way, only one is a worthy fight. Hope this helps you
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12328 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:01 am to
There was no impact to trade before the bombs started falling. So that justification is lacking.

Because the result is China sending missiles to our bases there.

So your cost benefit analysis better be on point.

I realize that at the end of the day it’s a personal feeling as to whether the attacks are justified. Or a difference of opinion.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
38003 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:16 am to
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Not happy that this Proxy War in Iran is allowing China to attack US bases. It’s a convenient workaround for a Global superpower to attack a nuclear armed foe.

We're essentially attacking targets inside Russia via proxy of Ukraine. I don't like that either, but it is what it is.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10088 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:17 am to
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There was no impact to trade before the bombs started falling. So that justification is lacking.


There was a severe impact to my wallet.
Posted by DUKE87
Covington, LA
Member since May 2021
1713 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:32 am to
Surprised to see a country not bow down after being attacked? What would you do in the situation?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23333 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:40 am to
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I agree that absent regime change, China will re-supply Iran.

And if we’ve disarmed Iran to the point that they are without the ability to project power without removing the regime who now fears both us and dissidents within its own nation who else will they have to turn to in a bipolar geopolitical world as a counterbalance against America other than China?

We’re forcing Iran into Chinas lap just like we pushed Russia there with our approach in the lead up to the war in Ukraine.

The whole premise of the operation from the moment we didn’t have a plan outside of assassination to execute regime change yet decided to remain in the conflict when that gambit failed is an escalatory path to progressively worse outcomes with every refusal to negotiate an exit.

We started with an open strait of Hormuz, now it’s closed.

We started with a neutered Iran sitting within its own borders isolated from the world, now it’s pushed into Chinas lap as its closest global ally out of necessity.

We started with a strong winning conservative coalition mostly unified on policy, now part of that group many of whom were Trumps strongest supporters during the campaign and before it are told that we aren’t “MAGA” unless we support things that didn’t used to be “MAGA” and that people who were lukewarm or hostile to Trump like Graham, Levin and Shapiro are the real MAGA voice.

“You got to know when to hold em…
know when to fold em… know when to walk away and know when to run.”
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13673 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:54 am to
FAGGIES
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65840 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:05 am to
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Surprised to see a country not bow down after being attacked? What would you do in the situation?


No, I'm surprised they still exist at all. We could absolutely end Iran at any moment. Time to make that happen.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12328 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:16 am to
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FAGGIES


Haha. You sound like a sophomore…
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
10678 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:31 am to
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Haha. You sound like a sophomore…


You sound like some sort of shill for hyping FOUR missiles as "plenty" of capacity.
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