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re: Surprise! Donald Trump is terrible at diplomacy. - WaPo - Update: FT Still Right

Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:43 am to
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:43 am to
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But he won’t. Not without a lot of help.



Help? That's what diplomacy is. Working with others.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:45 am to
Root harder bitch.

This country will never be the best it can be while a sizable number of your type are in it
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:46 am to
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Help? That's what diplomacy is. Working with others.



That's what makes FT's new crawfishin so hilarious.

"He won't do it without help?"

Well no fricking shite.

Cause, ya know. As we all know. History is chock full of major international negotiations over contentious subjects taking place with exactly 2 people involved..........the leaders of the 2 nations involved.

THAT shite happens all the time!
Posted by FT
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:47 am to
And you have yours. If it isn’t denuclearization, it’s better than what anyone else got, regardless of what it gives China or North Korea.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:58 am to
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And you have yours.


What are you talking about?

If a deal is made, it's made.

You're the one trying to figure out how to not give someone who is involved any of the credit.
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If it isn’t denuclearization, it’s better than what anyone else got, regardless of what it gives China or North Korea.
Interestingly, I've set literally no parameters at all. I'm waiting to see what happens.

If he gets something but not much, it'll be a meh win. If he gets a lot, but not all I hope, it'll be somewhat of a win. And, if manages to get it all......then it's a huge win.

Meanwhile. If he actually gets it all...........you're prepared to say he had nothing to do with it.

You're scum.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:59 am to
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If it isn’t denuclearization, it’s better than what anyone else got, regardless of what it gives China or North Korea.


I mean. Are you seriously trying to argue that if he does in fact get some things that we want that we currently don't have...............you're going to be pissed someone is happy about it?
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:01 am to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 7:49 am
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:02 am to
You are getting eviscerated in this thread. It’s shocking how much you lack in awareness to think this thread was good at the time.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:03 am to
The only way FT gives credit is if North Korea completely denuclearizes. The US doesn't give up anything. China doesn't get anything in return. Japan doesn't give up anything and neither does South Korea.

Otherwise we gave them too much and didn't get enough in return.

He'd probably still find a flaw in that plan.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:12 am to
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The only way FT gives credit is if North Korea completely denuclearizes. The US doesn't give up anything. China doesn't get anything in return. Japan doesn't give up anything and neither does South Korea.

Otherwise we gave them too much and didn't get enough in retu
Yup

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He'd probably still find a flaw in that plan.

He'll would just deny it happened........say that it's a fraud.
Posted by LSU Jax
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 8:12 am to
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:52 pm to
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Credit on NoKo. But terrible on diplomacy?

Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:56 pm to
Nice bump.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 4:00 pm to
This didn't age well...


Sad "Failed Testosterone." SAD!


Just to piss you off some more


Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 4:02 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 7:23 am
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
22120 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 4:05 pm to
I didn’t even bookmark it. He just keeps reminding me.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 4:23 pm to
If it was Obama and not Trump you'd say the exact same thing. In fact you guys did wrt to the Iran deal. Just face it Trump sucks at negotiating and bluffing.
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