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Supreme Court Will Decide Whether Police Can Enter A Home To Seize Guns Without A Warrant

Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:35 pm
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4155 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:35 pm
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There is a vigorous debate about whether the community care exception can apply to searches of a person’s home as well as of their car. Vehicles have always had less 4th Amendment protection than homes, which are considered a person’s most private sphere. Federal courts have been divided on this question and the Supreme Court has not ruled on it until now. The Court has just announced that it will hear arguments next month on a case that presents this issue: Caniglia v. Strom. In this case, Mr. Caniglia was arguing with his wife and melodramatically put an unloaded gun on the table and said “shoot me now and get it over with.” His wife called a non-emergency number for the police who arrived shortly thereafter. The police disagreed about whether Mr. Caniglia was acting “normal” or “agitated” but they convinced him to take an ambulance to the local hospital for evaluation. The police did not accompany him. While he was on his way to the hospital, Mrs. Caniglia told the police that her husband kept two handguns in the home. The police decided to search his home for the guns without obtaining a warrant. (Mrs. Caniglia’s consent to have the police search their home was legally negated because the police untruthfully told her that her husband had consented to the seizure of any guns.) The police located and seized the two guns. Mr. Caniglia sued for the violation of his 4th Amendment right to privacy and his 2nd Amendment right to keep handguns in the home for self-protection.



Insane times. It seems we are getting to the bottom of that slippery slope....“Shall not be infringed”
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24724 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
11660 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:37 pm to
For the sake of Police, I hope they rule that it can not be done.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98470 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:37 pm to
Well...considering the SCOTUS says that bureaucrats can limit the number of people in a church service and what they can do while in there "for the good of society," I don't hold out hope for a good outcome here.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35952 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:39 pm to
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The police decided to search his home for the guns without obtaining a warrant. (Mrs. Caniglia’s consent to have the police search their home was legally negated because the police untruthfully told her that her husband had consented to the seizure of any guns.) 

Any conservatives on here still think cops are the good guys?
Posted by arseinclarse
Algiers Purnt
Member since Apr 2007
34407 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:40 pm to
Should be 9-0
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18110 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:40 pm to
SCOTUS is compromised and as corrupt as the FBI, CIA, DOJ and IRS.
People continue to hold out false hope that the Republic fka the USA still has good guys coming to the rescue. There are no good guys riding in to save the day in this 3rd World level cesspool of corruption.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35952 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:41 pm to
And Mr. Caniglia needs to divorce his Karen bitch of a wife.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:42 pm to
How in the holy frick can this even be an issue for the court to decide? NO they can’t do this. Well, we’ve got the war on the 1st and 2nd Amendment, I guess we may as well watch them gun for the 4th as well.
This post was edited on 2/6/21 at 5:27 pm
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
24272 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:43 pm to
It’s for your own protection though. Don’t you want to be safe? Do you want an insurrection in your place of business?

Let me be clear, no you do not. The mental trauma alone will follow every member of Congress for the rest of their lives. Maybe even beyond.

We must put a stop to this before it’s too late. If you disagree, we’ll just consider that a hostile threat of your true future intentions.

No one is safe if you have a gun. You can only be safe if you turn them all over to us. Promise.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:44 pm to
HR 127 will be THE beginning of the real revolt!

There are millions of Americans that will not accept gun control....watch and see!

GUNS don't kill people, Bad people kill people.

Additionally, there are an estimated 350,000,000+ guns in US circulation....think about that for a minute.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:44 pm to
This is the case I wish the Supreme Court wouldn’t have taken. Depending on the wording of the opinion, this could definitely be a case of bad facts making bad law.
Posted by Cajun Tigah
Tennessee Mountains
Member since Jan 2005
4018 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:44 pm to
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Any conservatives on here still think cops are the good guys?


I won’t say every one, but I have never thought cops were on our side. I have kids in the military, people are going to be surprised there too.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34867 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:44 pm to
There are some things that have to be learned the hard way. Herding cats, with big claws, is hard.

EVERYTHING, has become about one thing...Global Totalitarian Marxism.

Fascinating time.
Posted by RancherReb
MS
Member since Jan 2021
1052 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:46 pm to
In other words, they are about to rule that police may enter and take said guns.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29919 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:47 pm to
Is this the "red flag law" that I guess has been in use in various locations around the country?
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:47 pm to
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Supreme Court Will Decide Whether Police Can Enter A Home To Seize Guns Without A Warrant


I will be shocked beyond belief if the SCOTUS sides with the constitution here.

This seems like the next step is the total stripping of our individual rights.
This post was edited on 2/6/21 at 4:50 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12384 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:48 pm to
My new policy is that every time I read about gun grabbing tactics or legislation, I buy another AR lower, suppressor, 80% or something else that terrifies anti-gun activists.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53769 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:48 pm to
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Insane times. It seems we are getting to the bottom of that slippery slope....“Shall not be infringed”


are they actually going to look at this nonesense and not the election fraud?

what is going on?
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17066 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 4:48 pm to
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Supreme Court Will Decide Whether Police Can Enter A Home To Seize Guns Without A Warrant

This is why I think the talk about civil war isn’t as outlandish as some people think. Censorship, invading your privacy, limiting your way to defend yourself, and more. All that, with the backing of Big Tech & Big Business. Great empires have fought civil wars all throughout history, it takes an enormous amount of hubris to think it couldn’t happen to us. When? I don’t know.
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